 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | | | |  |  |  | |  04-23-2008, 02:08 PM | #1 | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 4 |  CAN I STICK AN M3 ENGINE IN A Ti???
Hi Guys, I have just finished taking part in the scumball rally 3000 and am planning my car for next year... I have an idea that an M3 engine will go straight into a ti compact?? How complicated is this to do? Ryan www.teamstig.com - to see what we did to the car for this years event....if your interested! haha |  |  | | 04-23-2008, 02:13 PM | #2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 6,182 |
they bolt RIGHT up plugs essentially plug right in. switch over the ecu parts, radiator, etc etc but this will be your best friend for info http://www.318ti.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=26 also J!m has a GREAT swap manual that you should invest in! __________________
-Josh
Sold-1995 318ti, Club Sport, Hellrot
Sold-1996 318ti, Active Model, Boston Green
Current- 1995 318ti, sport model, schwartz
| | | | | 04-23-2008, 02:18 PM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 399 |
Yeap, direct bolt on. | | | | | 04-23-2008, 02:35 PM | #4 | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 4 |
Quote: Originally Posted by thesk8nmidget  they bolt RIGHT up plugs essentially plug right in. switch over the ecu parts, radiator, etc etc but this will be your best friend for info http://www.318ti.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=26 also J!m has a GREAT swap manual that you should invest in! | ahaa spot on mate, does anyone know anyone based near bristol who would be equipped to help me pull it off? its a charity event which we are aiming to raise £3000 for next year so any help would be welcome. Thanks again. Ryan | | | | | 04-23-2008, 03:09 PM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 |
welcome to the site  doing an M3 engine swap is really the only way to make power with a ti since the dasc is gone | | | | | 04-23-2008, 03:35 PM | #6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: maritimes Posts: 1,433 |
Quote: Originally Posted by tiFreak welcome to the site doing an M3 engine swap is really the only way to make power with a ti since the dasc is gone | No its not... Theres a 2.5, a 2.8 which both have the potential to make good power. I could sink $2000 into my 2.8 and push 220+ rwhp and eat M3s for breakfest. Even more over, there is a company (forget the name) who builds M4x motors and can get crazy power out of them... albeit for $5-7k. & theres custom turbo kits which a few people around the interweb have had pretty good luck with on the m42/4... and many types of proven kits for the 2.5/8 motors to bump them up quite significantly. and besides that, the DASC wasn't even that impressive for the price of it... got torque? ha don't think so. "only" way to make power... lol  __________________ 11/97 Base  328Ti
| | | | | 04-23-2008, 03:55 PM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 |
good point, I was typing faster than I was thinking  | | | | | 04-23-2008, 03:58 PM | #9 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: maritimes Posts: 1,433 |
im just being captain obvious, i just don't want unknowing people to get the impression its a 4banger or M3 motor, or nothin... the options are basically endless. __________________ 11/97 Base 328Ti
| | | | | 04-23-2008, 03:59 PM | #10 | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 4 |
Quote: Originally Posted by Philly No its not... Theres a 2.5, a 2.8 which both have the potential to make good power. I could sink $2000 into my 2.8 and push 220+ rwhp and eat M3s for breakfest. Even more over, there is a company (forget the name) who builds M4x motors and can get crazy power out of them... albeit for $5-7k. & theres custom turbo kits which a few people around the interweb have had pretty good luck with on the m42/4... and many types of proven kits for the 2.5/8 motors to bump them up quite significantly. and besides that, the DASC wasn't even that impressive for the price of it... got torque? ha don't think so. "only" way to make power... lol | I have to disagree chap, i have owned many M3's and they run at 321bhp...to get near this with a 328i would be waay to expensive and wouldnt touch the m3 engine on torque at all...... dont know much about ti's but i do about the power and unless they are running less power in the states theres no way your leaving any M3 in your wake... Ryan | | | | | 04-23-2008, 04:05 PM | #11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 6,182 |
he was just comparing to a stock m3 and euro spec m3's do have more power than we do in the states
i also take it your m3's running 321 bhp were far from stock? __________________
-Josh
Sold-1995 318ti, Club Sport, Hellrot
Sold-1996 318ti, Active Model, Boston Green
Current- 1995 318ti, sport model, schwartz
| | | | | 04-24-2008, 02:22 AM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: maritimes Posts: 1,433 |
just for arguements sake,
unless your talking E46 Ive never heard of a stock M3, even 3.2 pushing 321bhp without sinking thousands into it.
and more over, im comparing cost, you pretty much end up with the same thing...
I snagged up a good used 2.8 for $700... good M3 engines are $2500-3000+... I could take that extra few thousand and easily bump it up to M3 power, for example : m3 cams, larger injectors, m50 manifold, dme remap, and a few other bits .... you don't think that would pump up to about 240 bhp and a similar torque??? That sounds like euro e36 M3 power to me, yet in a lighter car.
not saying it could hang with the e46 model, but it wouldnt be embarassed by much with such a set up on the Ti, chap. __________________ 11/97 Base 328Ti
| | | | | 04-24-2008, 02:27 AM | #13 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ferndale, MD Posts: 462 |
Team Stig. Sorry to burst your buble, but I have some news....
I AM THE STIG!!!!
Good luck with the swap and the event. Keep us all posted. __________________ No trunk for the Junk  | | | | | 04-24-2008, 08:03 AM | #14 | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 4 |
Hi Lads, Just going back to this M3 power issue, i didnt know yours ran that low bhp....our standard 3.2 Evolution engine produces 321bhp and 258 lbs torque...here is the uk spec... it sounds like you guys are getting a raw deal out there......spec General Production 1 Jul 1996 to 15 Jul 1999 Length 4433 mm Width 1710 mm Height 1335 mm Weight 1535 kg Fuel Delivery Injection Transmission Manual Gears 6 Speed Performance Engine Size 3201 cc Cylinders 6 0-60 mph 5.3 s Power Output 321 bhp Valves 24 Torque 350 Nm 258 lb-ft Top Speed 155 mph Costs MPG 25 Insurance Group 20 Euro Emissions Standard CO2 Emissions 267 g/km Road Tax Band - Click here for road tax costs Click here for company car tax costs Practicality Wheelbase 2710 mm Luggage Capacity 405 L Fuel Capacity 62 L Turning Circle - Unbraked Towing Weight - Braked Towing Weight - they also do a non - evolution engine which is abour 300bhp......these are all E36 stats. You can also buy an e36 evo engine here for about £500 ($900 or so) Cheers for the support too, we did really well this year any this will happen and should be pushing 400 bhp once we have done what we need to with the cams air induction, de cat, exhaust and remap....... just need to get it in there first!! Ryan www.teamstig.com | | | | | |
| Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | |
 Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
| | |
| Similar Threads | | Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post | | 15mm pad install problem | hotdog19d | Suspension | 11 | 04-29-2005 04:42 AM |
|
Linear Mode
