Should I trade for this clubsport?

[stldrummer]

Okay guys, a few years ago I was shopping for my first car and came across a beautiful black 95 clubsport, which sparked my interest in ti's. The deal didn't go through, and I ended up going the honda route. Here we are a few years later, and I come across a red clubsport. It has 158,000 miles, and looks to be in great condition with alot of maintenance done.

My big question is, should I consider trading the owner for my 2001 Acura 3.2CL w/ 170,000 miles? KBB tells me no, but my love of bimmers and the rarity of the clubsport tell me that this is a car that I can autocross now, and keep for the rest of my life. Opinions would be greatly appreciated.

[slow_ti]

do it man.

[Ji Money]

Is the Acura your daily driver? If so how much miles do you commute everyday? The ti's weakness is its low engine power at highway speeds. It's always at about 4k rpm by the time you hit 65 mph so fuel efficiency isn't that great if you are hitting the highway often.

Don't let that rarity thing with the Clubsport motivate you too much. It has no more engine power than a standard 95 ti. The only thing it has going for it performance wise is the LSD. I'm sure you know all of these things but without the LSD, the Clubsport is just another 95 ti sport with a prettier exterior/interior.

[tiFreak]

I'd go for it, seems like the seller's getting the short end of the bargain to me

[Mr.Squeelerz]

Who cares about fuel consumption. These are cool cars or this discussion wouldn't be happening. Go for it. There's nothing special about that Acura.

[stldrummer]

Originally Posted by Ji Money

Is the Acura your daily driver? If so how much miles do you commute everyday? The ti's weakness is its low engine power at highway speeds. It's always at about 4k rpm by the time you hit 65 mph so fuel efficiency isn't that great if you are hitting the highway often.

Yes it's my daily driver. I drive between 8 to 30 miles a day, (school vs. work) and it's a good mix between city and highway. Fuel Economy is going to be better than the Acura, though.

My biggest concern is performance, I know it handles wayyyy better than the Acura, but I am not sure how well I'll adjust from the 100 hp drop.

[THAT318]

i honestly dont think it will feel like that much of a drop, you have a couple hundred pounds on the CL. but yea rwd>fwd... someone had to say it.

[slow_ti]

The ti MAKES you drive. If you want to get and respectable performance out of it. Your gonna have to really shift the gears and whine them all the way out. and fwd lol.


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[familytruckster]

Originally Posted by Ji Money

Is the Acura your daily driver? If so how much miles do you commute everyday? The ti's weakness is its low engine power at highway speeds. It's always at about 4k rpm by the time you hit 65 mph so fuel efficiency isn't that great if you are hitting the highway often.

Don't let that rarity thing with the Clubsport motivate you too much. It has no more engine power than a standard 95 ti. The only thing it has going for it performance wise is the LSD. I'm sure you know all of these things but without the LSD, the Clubsport is just another 95 ti sport with a prettier exterior/interior.

4K!? Wow, sure am glad I have an auto. 3K @65.

I'd trade.

[slow_ti]

Wait. It's an automatic?


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[spidertri]

Originally Posted by familytruckster

4K!? Wow, sure am glad I have an auto. 3K @65.

I'd trade.

Ji is off a bit, 4k is over 80mph on the 5spd, 65 is around 3k.

Does the ti have maintenance records? You might have to sink some money into it when you get it to bring it up to daily driver standards (cooling system, suspension bushings, etc).

[familytruckster]

Originally Posted by spidertri

Ji is off a bit, 4k is over 80mph on the 5spd, 65 is around 3k.

Does the ti have maintenance records? You might have to sink some money into it when you get it to bring it up to daily driver standards (cooling system, suspension bushings, etc).

Yes, there is the maintenance part...That's a chunk of change if you want to get everything up to snuff to be reliable for DD.


Yeah 4K in mine is 90-95

[Ji Money]

Originally Posted by stldrummer

Yes it's my daily driver. I drive between 8 to 30 miles a day, (school vs. work) and it's a good mix between city and highway. Fuel Economy is going to be better than the Acura, though.

My biggest concern is performance, I know it handles wayyyy better than the Acura, but I am not sure how well I'll adjust from the 100 hp drop.

I don't think you could really say one is better than the other. Front wheel drive cars have their own pros and cons as do rear wheel drive cars. They're just different. I do prefer the feel of a rear wheel drive but when the road gets slick, front wheel is better. Do you have a lot of snow in your area? Lots of hills? You should consider that.

[Ji Money]

Originally Posted by spidertri

Ji is off a bit, 4k is over 80mph on the 5spd, 65 is around 3k.

Does the ti have maintenance records? You might have to sink some money into it when you get it to bring it up to daily driver standards (cooling system, suspension bushings, etc).

I'm sure you're right but I'm always hitting 80 mph on my commute and it always seems higher than 3k rpm for me. I have a 5 speed.

[Ji Money]

Originally Posted by Mr.Squeelerz

Who cares about fuel consumption. These are cool cars or this discussion wouldn't be happening. Go for it. There's nothing special about that Acura.

That Acura has a nice engine and it's a great handler as a front wheel drive car.

I think if the car is going to be a daily driver then you have to consider everything.