No power to starter or Fuel pump

[GosuTi]

Problem: No power to fuel pump or starter Knowledge: I can start the car arching the starter with a screwdriver, but i'm not getting any power to the fuel pump or starter with ignition.
Prior to (Very very little) overheating and parking, it ran just fine.
Backstory: So i had to replace a few hoses in the back of my engine (Good placement, BMW) which required me to take off the entire intake. (Again, fantastic placement..)
After finally getting everything put back together and getting all the wire harnesses in place, I am not getting any power to fuel pump or starter. but i cannot find the issue. The only solution i've been given, (Which sounds like total bull) is that it's because i currently have no water in the radiator.


I need some help figuring out this problem. any help is awesome!

[MINIz guy]

Did you even figure out the problem?

I'm not sure which posts to arc on the starter to see if it will spin. I've checked all my wiring too and I'm getting nothing.

[GosuTi]

Originally Posted by MINIz guy

Did you even figure out the problem?

I'm not sure which posts to arc on the starter to see if it will spin. I've checked all my wiring too and I'm getting nothing.

My problem was the ews. The top two were power and ground, the bottom one is clutch if I remember right. Make sure the wires are all in the right place and secured down properly.

I saw a post on another forum where the clutch wire wasn't hooked up and it gave the same issue I had.

[MINIz guy]

How did you determine it was your EWS?

[GosuTi]

I narrowed it down to it, then did a bypass and it worked.
EWS bypass is a last resort, though.
i did my bypass and then had the ECM and EWS reflashed at the dealer for a couple hundred. i'd check your wiring again, wiring makes everything a pain, especially with the squid

[MINIz guy]

So the items going from the squid are:

DISA
ICV
Oil press.
Coolant temp.
Camshaft position sensor
Crankshaft position sensor
Alternator
Starter

I believe I have all of them connected correctly. I redid my starter wires too and they are all in their proper poles.





Should I now start looking at an EWS bypass?

[GosuTi]

What sort of response are you getting from your car when you try to start it up?

[MINIz guy]

Nada. Not even a click from the starter.

[GosuTi]

Sounds like the exact same issue i had... BMW can check it for you for a couple hundred, and another couple hundred for a reflash. these things get expensive. with that said, you can run on an EWS bypass, not the best idea, but you can. The only EWS bypass I run are on my swaps. Wiring is usually the issue in these cases, but if your luck is as bad as mine, you may be in the same position as I am. Since you can pull up your information with your EWS, you may be able to catch a bmw tech, around here or bimmerfest (hell, even reddit) that can do a better job than me at translating it. I work with my hands, not the computers. S'pose i'm doomed for future cars. Best of luck, man!

[MINIz guy]

I'd like to update. I've been working with John on the forum and he's been great help. Maybe some of you guys know something about this too.

This is why I don't think my key is at issue:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...707_212746.jpg

I also tested pole #2 to ground and #4 to ground. I get 0v with no key, key in position 2, and key in start position.

What can I conclude from this?

Also, how do I bypass my EWS2? I have a 1/96 build car so it is early EWS2.

[GosuTi]

Originally Posted by MINIz guy

This is why I don't think my key is at issue:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...707_212746.jpg

well, it does say it's communicating well. ( i just go in the car, arm the alarm/lock it, and put the key in ignition and turn, if it unlocks the doors, it's the proper key)

Originally Posted by MINIz guy

Also, how do I bypass my EWS2? I have a 1/96 build car so it is early EWS2.

EWS is a quick easy bypass, I don't recall the exact procedure.
it was something like cutting the two biggest wires on the EWS and putting them together. to test the bypass. These wires are HOT, take proper precautions when connecting and securing.
I would do some research on it before following that.
Because it's been a good long while since i did my bypass.

[MINIz guy]

I've done that unlock test to and my key works for it.

Do you know if the bypass works for a 1/96 build car? The bimmerforums guys tell me that I can't bypass anything since it's a 96.

[GosuTi]

Originally Posted by MINIz guy

I've done that unlock test to and my key works for it.

Do you know if the bypass works for a 1/96 build car? The bimmerforums guys tell me that I can't bypass anything since it's a 96.

Not completely sure. The last one I did it on was a 11/97 i'm not fully versed in the ews systems. But mine is an ews2 and the bypass worked fine

[MINIz guy]

Then I'm goin to bypass. Mine is earlier than yours so it should definitely bypass

[GosuTi]

Make sure to give yourself some room in the cut to make sure you can put it back together if it doesn't!