New Supercharger on the market?

[andyman7931]

Originally Posted by Midnight Autoworks

Again andy, not here to arm wrestle,the web site is not done, But if you remember a company called z3power, that was me you can look it up, years before KO performance ever had mention of a 1.9l s/c. I am selling a kit on ebay, and I am offering this forum the one installed supercharger, my point is I am not in a hurry to sell you guys the kit before I prove the kit, So just wait, I am not doe yet, when I have posted everything and there is one forum member with this kit on his car, then Ill start advertising and selling this product and you guys can milk me for info. Also, I am not going to sell a single kit I dont already have in a box ready to ship. Build times are stupid and it just means the company a:didnt have the money to inventory everything, or B: started selling and never cought up.

I'm not trying to argue, I'm just trying to protect unsuspecting fellow board members here. I don't care that the website isn't done, What I did care about was references to previous poor quality products as well as inconsistincies that lead me to think that this is the same poor quality product with a different name on it. I'm new to the 4 cylinder bmw community so I hadn't heard of z3power, but a quick search online didn't boost my confidence any, infact it even raised more questions. If this product has been developed for years now under 3 different company names, why is the build still at a prototype stage?

So what is that kit on ebay? maybe someone here would bid on it if they knew what it was.

Also, where's the pictures you promised 2 days ago?

[AlaskaBlue]

Originally Posted by DustenT

You won't want to take it off.

I'm going to assume this kit works and makes power. Ultimately that is what you are after. Fit and finish is where KO feel short, and Joe's story is believable (KO copied his design). Some high res photos that show the fit and finish of the kit would be great.

The throttle body adapter that KO sold was soooooooooo bad. Can we see a pic of your adapter?

That "Kit" coughonelousycrappypiececough looks really familiar. Didn't some member buy that POS then have to send it back, but still got screwed on the refund?

[Midnight Autoworks]

Midnight Autoworks does not make or sell a throttle body adaptor; KO thinks they can make everything in that back yard.

The Midnight Autoworks supercharger kit is not a prototype.
The web site and online content is under construction, not the kit. We just want to have an inventory of at least 5 kits in boxes ready to ship.

Z3power was a car club in Ft.lauderdale that started the whole supercharger kit idea, but z3power was not a company , now Midnight Autoworks is some of the same original people from z3power, but Midnight Autoworks is a company.
Anyhow, I was going to wait for some polished manifolds to get back from the machine shop, but I am just going to go outside and take some pictures of a used one in the shop. The new ones will look the same as this one, were just offering the polished finish instead of the high temp paint. Give me like 10 minutes with the pictures.

[DustenT]

Originally Posted by AlaskaBlue

That "Kit" coughonelousycrappypiececough looks really familiar. Didn't some member buy that POS then have to send it back, but still got screwed on the refund?

Wait....it was you!!!

[L84THSKY]

I was gonna say the same thing

Originally Posted by DustenT

Wait....it was you!!!

[Midnight Autoworks]

I worked their but I did not make that piece of crap, I wouldn't put that piece of **** on my car, and when it came to a refund the owner wouldn’t let me give him a full refund , ( I was the guy Andy dealt with over the phone), you guys must think I was running the whole show at KO, answering the phone, designing systems, welded manifolds, shipped the parts, packed up the kits, I was just there for phone sales and tech support. They got a welding machine to copy the Midnight Autoworks kit and no one there really knows how to weld and they were making **** from scratch (throttle body adapter) that they thought they could sell now that they had a machine.
Any one who is familiar with the m3 throttle body and the 96+1.9l throttle body will know that the 1.9l has the idle control valve bolted onto it and the m3 has a separate idle control valve, if you tried to use that adaptor in the picture to replace the throttle body with an m3 throttle body, you would have no place for your idle control valve!, your throttle cable would have to be extended to reach from the other side etc... end of story .

[Midnight Autoworks]

Here is the picture i took, I know I should have waited for the polished ones to come back but so you get the genral idea,
Click here http://www.eatonm3.com/new_page_1.htm

[Midnight Autoworks]

Heres a little video form the other night, Ill try to get some during the day.
www.eatonm3.com/video.htm

[TiPerformance]

Does anyone notice that it bears a great resemblence to the kit that L8 recieved? Same coating on the manifold, no pics of the welds, it looks almost identical other than the one port is opened up a little.

There are too many connections between KO, and midnight performance. Another question for Joe is that you claim that it was your design and KO stole it...... you must have know something was going down when they sold the kit to L8 and never got the kit from you.

I hate to say it but there are way too many inconsistancies here, you are selling your product at DASC pricing, but the overal cosmetics look like ****. Yes, the supercharger that you are using works, but it was originally designed to fit a Nissian hince the large adapter plate. I could see charging the prices that you do if you were using NEW eaton superchargers like DASC does.

Also who is doing your tuning, and what all are they doing? Are you using a piggyback computer or what?

[DustenT]

Notice the Check Engine Light is on in the video.

The manifold plate looks really thin. How do you keep it from warping when you weld it? More pics of the welds please.

Remember: a polished turd is still a turd!

[andyman7931]

Originally Posted by Midnight Autoworks

Here is the picture i took, I know I should have waited for the polished ones to come back but so you get the genral idea,
Click here http://www.eatonm3.com/new_page_1.htm

that's a start. I'd like to see some pics like we have here in the notebook for the DASC install... http://www.318ti.org/notebook/dasc/index.htm Some high res installed pics as well as the other side of the manifold.

also, is it just me or does the link to the video not work?

[DustenT]

The video works, just give it a couple minutes to download. The video is of the inside of the Z3, it doesn't really show anything. It's too shaky to see the boost gauge, but I did notice the CEL.

Midnight - Keep in mind those of us that live in states that require emissions testing will not be able to pass with a check engine light on. BTW - The DASC is CARB certified. Will your kit pass a smog inspection? What kind of warranty do you offer?

**Copied from DASC's site**
Some final notes: The DowningAtlanta 1.8/1.9 liter BMW supercharger kit is undergoing certification to be 50 state legal by the EPA and California Air Resources Board. The supercharger unit comes with a full one year replacement warranty. Eaton blowers regularly exceed a life of 120,000 miles. No maintenance is required for our kit or for the supercharger itself.

[nuvolarossa]

Originally Posted by andyman7931

also, is it just me or does the link to the video not work?

try this: http://www.eatonm3.com/Midnight_Auto...nd_vid_011.mpg

[Midnight Autoworks]

Im Gus, I am the owner of the car. The check engine light is on because I removed the catalitic coverter.

[DustenT]

Originally Posted by Midnight Autoworks

Im Gus, I am the owner of the car. The check engine light is on because I removed the catalitic coverter.

Then keep in mind the hp ratings that have been quoted are from a modified car.