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Old 10-20-2008, 08:59 PM   #31
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...both M42 and M44 irrespective of region use the viscose setup on the waterpump.
I've seen 4 Ti's in person. Two M42s and two M44s. None of them had wp mounted fans.

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I've seen 4 Ti's in person. Two M42s and two M44s. None of them had wp mounted fans.

Just my experience.
That's exactly my point. We've had SoCal g2g's with over 20 Ti's. I've owned 3 Ti's myself, and I've probably looked at another 6 or 7 while I was in the market for one. Not one of them had a water pump mounted fan. Not to mention the several people who've brought their cars to my house that I've worked on. I trust Mallard as a reliable source of information, although I've never seen the item in question. I find it hard to believe that every '95 318ti that I've seen has had the fan delete mod done, but if Mallard says it's so, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt. He has far more knowledge on this subject than myself.
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I think its unusual that BMW who build the cars decided to fit them in colder climate countrys, but decided to leave them off for vehicles sold to warmer lands.

Remember these ti´s are almost 15 years old some of them, and not unlikely that they have been removed by previous owners, mabey even workshops.

Also, the item is shown on all models, so i can only assume the item is standard spec to these vehicles.. but im not god (as my trusty mechanic says some times..) and i cant speak for every ti that left the factory

But "generally" speaking, the viscose element was/is standard fixture for the cooling system, and the el. fan was/is for the air-con rad.
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Far and away the best power upgrade with a stock engine is a lower ratio diff. If you can find a 4.44 LSD from an automatic ti, you will burn rubber in 1st and 2nd gear, and keep up with integras off the line.

Of course you'll find the engine revving up a bit at freeway speeds.

Oh, and my ti, when I picked it up new from SCBMW on 7/15/95 had an electric fan. Pretty sure they were all that way, at least in the US.
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Remember these ti´s are almost 15 years old some of them, and not unlikely that they have been removed by previous owners, maybe even workshops.
Then somebody on this forum needs to speak up. There's got to be at least one member in NA with an engine mounted fan on their Ti. Hahaha, this is really buggin me. I'm going to start a poll.

This reminds me of a similar argument that i had with my neighbor about our clutch discs. I told him that I ordered an M5 clutch for my LTW flywheel and explained that it had a larger friction surface, beefier pressure plate and a sprung clutch disc. Being a mechanic by trade for 15 years, he replied that ALL automotive clutch discs are sprung. I told him that I recently replaced the clutch on my ClubSport, did a tranny swap on "Lazoh's" car, and removed the tranny from my M44 before I sold it to "96ti". All three of which had unsprung clutch discs. He swore up and down that I was wrong even though I seen it with my own two eyes and I knew I was right My only problem was that i didn't have any proof as I threw the old clutch away from the ClubSport, Left the one on my M44 when I sold it and Lazoh's car was put back together About a month went by and we were almost to the point of not speaking to each other anymore! Just by chance, sheer luck, when I removed the tranny from my S52(with my buddy standing right next to me handing me tools), IT HAD THE EURO SPEC UNSPRUNG CLUTCH! I dropped the wrench, made him look at it and told him that he owes me lunch
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then its McD´s on me if its true

But i still stand by the viscose set-up as BMW´s #1 cooling system (#1 in spec, not performance)
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..... Just by chance, sheer luck, when I removed the tranny from my S52(with my buddy standing right next to me handing me tools), IT HAD THE EURO SPEC UNSPRUNG CLUTCH! I dropped the wrench, made him look at it and told him that he owes me lunch
None of the setups I've run in the TI had a sprung clutch.

The Sachs S52 kit I bought for my swap is unsprung too.

Love this picture... S52 left - M44 right
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