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Old 11-29-2007, 02:43 PM   #1
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Default Group Buy: Eibach Front Sway bar 28mm | Ludicrouspeed.com

Due to some interest in purchasing just the Eibach front sway bar from the previous group buy sponsored by Ludicrouspeed.com, I've gone ahead and contacted the owner (Chookeat) about a group buy for just the front bar.

Just like the last group buy, if 3 people can commit to the order, the group buy price for the front sway bar will be $180 shipped.

Two people, myself included, are ready to go. We just need one more person to qualify for the $180 price.

Please post up if you are interested and can commit.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:45 PM   #2
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damn wish i had money to jump on!
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:00 AM   #3
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:21 AM   #4
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Questions for the guru's:

1. What is the difference between installing both front and rear aftermarket sways vs. just the front aftermarket swaybar?

2. Is the front bar alone that much of a difference?

3. How does the rear enhance performance?

The first three questions can probably be summed up in one answer.

4. Are these effective on a base model where the only "mod" so far is to take out the foam from the airbox?
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:42 PM   #5
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Big front bar only = understeer!
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:39 PM   #6
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Big front bar only = understeer!
Big false.

The larger front sway bar will better control the camber curve (less roll = less camber loss) and actually increase front end grip, creating a tendency to overstreer. It's counter-intuitive, but true.
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:11 PM   #7
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Well, that might be true, but in general, according to every suspension design book I've read and personal experience, more roll stiffness transfers grip to the opposite end of the car.
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Well, that might be true, but in general, according to every suspension design book I've read and personal experience, more roll stiffness transfers grip to the opposite end of the car.
And you are very right... but the BMW is an odd ball when it comes to handling.
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You'll also find many WRX guys in STX going with the big front bar - it is counter intuitive, but many guys are running 27mm front bars and something smaller in the back. More than a few WRX suspension gurus are backing up this suspension theory with better track times and improved feel at the local autocrosses.

You can check NASIOC's suspension threads for reference.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:03 PM   #10
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UPDATE - http://318ti.org/forum/showthread.ph...ight=group+buy
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:30 AM   #11
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I posted in that thread, if you can get the bar to Honolulu, Hawaii for the $180, I'm 100% in.
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Old 10-26-2008, 07:05 AM   #12
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any 1 know the size for the stock swaybars and stock sport sway bars?
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24/14 non sport
25/16 sport

or something to that nature. A 28 front bar is HUGE compared to what's on the car from when I had mine.
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Old 10-26-2008, 07:14 AM   #14
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wow is a huge difference
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Old 10-26-2008, 03:20 PM   #15
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What good is one over having both front and rear? Just curious.
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