318ti.org forum

Go Back   318ti.org forum > Technical, Maintenance and Modifications > Differentials

Notices

Differentials Limit Slip, gear ratio discussions.

.
» Recent Threads
1999 M3 Swap
09-07-2023 10:10 PM
Last post by buzzboy
05-02-2024 08:18 PM
6 Replies, 393,777 Views
Reply Share/Bookmark
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-31-2004, 08:40 PM   #16
bimmerboi318
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 290
iTrader: (0)
Default

Are the larger output flanges the only reason an e30 6 cylinder diff is different? And if that is so, will a 4 cylinder e30 diff fit with NO modifications? Otherwise, I'll have to get the e30 cv shafts. Thanks.
__________________
Vince Carknard
1995 318ti Active
Hellrot, 16" 5 spoke, "Fogged" airbox mod, Stromung exhaust, Bilstein Sports, BMW sport springs, 3.73lsd,
others...
bimmerboi318 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2004, 08:50 PM   #17
1996 328ti
Senior Member
 
1996 328ti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 9,356
Vehicles
iTrader: (1)
Default

I think the main difference in a 6 cylinder diff has a larger housing. Better dissipation of heat. Not sure if an E30 4 cylinder diff will bolt right up. It might need different flanges.

http://www.318ti.org/notebook/diff_c...ion/index.html
__________________
...steven
BMW CCA #146825
1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i
www.bmwcca.org
1996 328ti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2004, 03:50 AM   #18
ClubSport332ti
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: East Coast
Posts: 89
iTrader: (0)
Default

Speed is taken from the Diff! The ABS is in he axel. You can get any e30 diff to fit the ti ( the best option is to get an e30 diff from a member and then get the half shafts and do it that way.)
ClubSport332ti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2004, 12:30 AM   #19
bimmerboi318
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 290
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClubSport332ti
Speed is taken from the Diff! The ABS is in he axel. You can get any e30 diff to fit the ti ( the best option is to get an e30 diff from a member and then get the half shafts and do it that way.)
ABS is on the axles on cars with ASC+T, and they also have 4 wheel independant (4 channel) abs. Mine however has no speed sensors on the axles. Only the center diff sensor.

I just bought a 3.73 lsd so I'll find out first hand how easy the swap is. Thanks for the help guys.
__________________
Vince Carknard
1995 318ti Active
Hellrot, 16" 5 spoke, "Fogged" airbox mod, Stromung exhaust, Bilstein Sports, BMW sport springs, 3.73lsd,
others...
bimmerboi318 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2004, 03:49 PM   #20
Constant
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 68
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmerboi318
ABS is on the axles on cars with ASC+T, and they also have 4 wheel independant (4 channel) abs. Mine however has no speed sensors on the axles. Only the center diff sensor.
You sure about that? #11 is the ABS wheel speed sensor, found on the '95 318ti. It uses an inductive pickup where the toothed pulse ring at the end of the axle inserts into the hub. My '96 without ASC definitely has the ABS sensors in both rear trailing arm hubs.

Constant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2004, 04:49 PM   #21
bimmerboi318
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 290
iTrader: (0)
Default

I'm pretty sure. I've had the rear end torn down a couple times and haven't seen any speed sensors. The only thing even slightly resembling a sensor is the pad wear sensor.
__________________
Vince Carknard
1995 318ti Active
Hellrot, 16" 5 spoke, "Fogged" airbox mod, Stromung exhaust, Bilstein Sports, BMW sport springs, 3.73lsd,
others...
bimmerboi318 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2004, 10:56 PM   #22
Constant
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 68
iTrader: (0)
Default

Although it is possible your car has an unusual factory setup (it's happened before), I don't think it would make sense for BMW to make a different ABS system on the '95 ti. IIRC, all the other E36s without ASC+T are 3-channel, 4-sensor systems. The rear 2 sensors are tied to one channel. If either rear sensor detects slippage, both rear brakes will be pulsed. Note that 3-channel does not refer to the number of sensors, but rather the number of hydraulic controls that can modulate the ABS.

Interestingly enough, even on ASC+T equipped 318ti's the ABS works as a 3-channel setup. The 4 channels on ASC+T cars allows the rear brakes to modulate independently during traction control. Yet when ABS is activated, both rear brakes are modulated in unison. Thus a pseudo 3-channel operation.

Constant
Constant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2004, 04:14 AM   #23
bimmerboi318
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 290
iTrader: (0)
Default

Just received my E30 3.73 LSD in the mail today I'm getting tired of driving my nissan hardbody...

Constant, is there a particular reason that the e30 axles wouldnt directly fit? Or was it simply because of the tone ring that you used the ti axles with outboard 6 cylinder CV joints?

I am assuming that you are the same Constant that wrote the very nice and informative differential swap how-to ;}
__________________
Vince Carknard
1995 318ti Active
Hellrot, 16" 5 spoke, "Fogged" airbox mod, Stromung exhaust, Bilstein Sports, BMW sport springs, 3.73lsd,
others...
bimmerboi318 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2004, 04:02 PM   #24
Constant
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 68
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmerboi318
Constant, is there a particular reason that the e30 axles wouldnt directly fit? Or was it simply because of the tone ring that you used the ti axles with outboard 6 cylinder CV joints?
Yes, the E30 axles will directly fit. I just happened to swap mine because the pulse ring on the E30 axles I bought were in terrible shape.

Just an FYI, if you use the unmodified E30 axles, take caution with the ABS sensor. I didn't have a problem, but some people said their ABS sensors actually hit the E30 pulse ring. You might have to put a spacer on the sensor.

Constant
Constant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2004, 03:40 AM   #25
bimmerboi318
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 290
iTrader: (0)
Default

*ahem*

A public service announcement. Constant, I would like to take this opportunity to say that I was, in fact, wrong about not having outboard speed sensors on my axles. I took them out, and there they were staring at me. I owe a round of drinks Although I was looking and I dont think there is a way for the car to brake individually in the rear, since there's only one brake line going back there. Again, I could be wrong here :

I also underestimated how pricey axles were going to be. 140 bucks each for new aftermarket. 79 for remans. I found a place that supplies dealers that has them for 35 each, but I need an exact exchange...they wont let me pay a core charge. So, it's looking like the 79 dollar remans.
__________________
Vince Carknard
1995 318ti Active
Hellrot, 16" 5 spoke, "Fogged" airbox mod, Stromung exhaust, Bilstein Sports, BMW sport springs, 3.73lsd,
others...
bimmerboi318 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2004, 02:29 AM   #26
bimmerboi318
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 290
iTrader: (0)
Default

Well, after a long time of not having a working computer, i've finally made it back to the forum. I'd just like to say that the 3.73 upgrade was very worthwhile and is indeed the poor man's supercharger. The swap was pretty straightforward. The only thing I noticed was that the vent tube and left side top bolt for the cover hit the unibody. Some "adjusting" of the unibody was needed for clearance. Best 150 bucks I've ever spent. Well...on my car at least... ;}
__________________
Vince Carknard
1995 318ti Active
Hellrot, 16" 5 spoke, "Fogged" airbox mod, Stromung exhaust, Bilstein Sports, BMW sport springs, 3.73lsd,
others...
bimmerboi318 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:08 PM.


.
Powered by site supporters
vBulletin Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, 318ti.org
© vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2
[page compression: 95.41 k/114.49 k (16.66%)]

318ti.org does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information or products discussed.