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Old 01-16-2014, 03:40 PM   #16
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Happy New Year TI'ers!

So, I picked up a pair of DEPO HID projectors with LED angel eye conversion installed. Need more light for my old eyes, used to my 540's Hellas.

For those of you who have wired in their Angel eyes, where did you wire them into and when are they lit?

The limited instructions note to tie the supply wire into the parking lights. I was thinking to wire in a relay into a 12V ignition on wire to turn the Angels on whenever the ignition is switched on.

Anyone set this up? I can figure it out, but want to cross check with folks who have done this configuration. I have set this up with a Zionsville on my 540's electric fan relay.

Thanks!
Didn't do the wiring myself, but the shop that did ran a lead back to the fuse box so that the halos are on any time the ignition is on, and is independent of the parking lights. I'll take a look at it later and see if I can tell where they ran the lead.
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I ran the positive lead to the radio fuse so it turns on as you turn the key.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:27 PM   #18
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Guys, thanks!

Definitely looking for turning them on when the ignition/engine is on so I'm not in a battery drain situation. While a good option, I'm not as keen on having them on when I'm waiting for someone parked and just listening to the radio.

I don't imagine the LEDs will have a large power draw, but I have no spec on what that is. The bigger thing for me are the HID projectors, and I suspect that will have a larger draw, but have not seen an operating difference as far as power draw on my 318ic.

I appreciate the feedback thus far!

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Old 01-16-2014, 06:34 PM   #19
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Didn't do the wiring myself, but the shop that did ran a lead back to the fuse box so that the halos are on any time the ignition is on, and is independent of the parking lights. I'll take a look at it later and see if I can tell where they ran the lead.
Thanks! I plan to break out the Bentley manual and check for a candidate in the fuse box, so if you could take a peek and report as well, I's appreciate it just to confirm a power source point easier than another relay.

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I have LED AEs as well, and never had a drain issue with just the radio on. Your projectors should be connected directly to the low beam switch, separate from the AEs, so they should not be on unless you pull the knob.
That said, connecting the AEs to the ignition is recommended. I was lazy and the radio fuse was the easiest option at the time.
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I have LED AEs as well, and never had a drain issue with just the radio on. Your projectors should be connected directly to the low beam switch, separate from the AEs, so they should not be on unless you pull the knob.
That said, connecting the AEs to the ignition is recommended. I was lazy and the radio fuse was the easiest option at the time.
Yes, I'm less concerned about power draw from the LED more than being discreet if I'm in the car at night listening to the radio.

The kit supplied harness will go to the factory High beam connector and the low beam connector plugs directly in the HID ballast. I'm more concerned actually on the draw for the HIDs on the factory wiring. No issue on my 318ic, but I wonder if the factory wiring provides enough power.

Thanks for your feedback!
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might be a little late now but there is a spot in the fuse panel (at least on my 95) that's not used but it gets power when the ignition is on. I just used a male spade connector and ran the wire to the grey wires on the headlights

I don't know about yours but mine came with this whole harness with a relay that's supposed to be hooked up to the battery and plug into the back of the headlights, I don't know what it's supposed to be for but I know my angel eyes and headlights all worked fine without it
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might be a little late now but there is a spot in the fuse panel (at least on my 95) that's not used but it gets power when the ignition is on. I just used a male spade connector and ran the wire to the grey wires on the headlights

I don't know about yours but mine came with this whole harness with a relay that's supposed to be hooked up to the battery and plug into the back of the headlights, I don't know what it's supposed to be for but I know my angel eyes and headlights all worked fine without it
Ya, mine came with the same harness. It's part of the wiring kit if installing in a Euro model I was told by the seller.

Thanks for the fuse panel mention. Can you take a pic of the area you are describing please?

BTW, I did install the Depos this last weekend and the while the HIDs are not as bright as my 540it, they are a significant improvement over my Depo projectors. the installed bulbs are 6000k, I may look for 4500ks as the 6000k are still a bit bluish for my liking. Looks good, but I think the 4500ks put out a more effective light. Anyway, I'm happy with them they will be cooler when the AEs get hooked up to ignition power. I'll wait to check the color of the AEs before I consider a bulb swap.

Thanks Brendan for your tip again! Rich
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Looked at how mine were wired and wasn't able to tell where the connection was.
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Looked at how mine were wired and wasn't able to tell where the connection was.
No worries, now that football season is effectively over for me, I have more time on the weekend to crack open a Bentley and review wiring.

I have in the past tapped the 12+ orange wire in the bundle for the diagnostic 20 pin port in the engine bay, but my 97 OBDII connector is in the cabin so I'm looking for a different source.

Thank you for looking tho.
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Running the AEs wire to your starter relay should work.
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Good deal, thanks! I'll be working this tomorrow. Appreciate your feedback!
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Thanks for the fuse panel mention. Can you take a pic of the area you are describing please?
no problem, my car's in storage for winter now so I can't get any pictures, but if you take a look at the fuses there should be some unused sockets that only have the electrical contacts on one side. I can't remember which one I used but if you have a test light it should be pretty easy to figure out
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If I had known there was still interest in EU projectors I would have brought back a few more pairs.

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