Budget Friendly Camber Adjustment Parts?

[mamba]

Hi guys. My buddy got some H&R race springs and Bilstein sport struts for his Ti and now we need to find out what kind of camber components need to be installed for good double duty use. I know he probably needs camber plates since I did on my e30. I also read that he'll need some rear camber adjustment as well.


I am familiar with Vorschlag and GC, but am hoping to find out if there are any other more budget friendly options out there. I know the race springs aren't the mildest when it comes to drop, but compared to coilovers I'd say they are at about the middle of the spectrum so perhaps the needed amount of camber correction won't be as serious.


I'm not too familiar with the whole rear camber adjustment part. On my e30, I'll have some tabs welded on when I do my sway bar upgrades and I imagine the Ti will be similar since it's rear suspension has more in common with my car than the e36, but I'm hoping (fingers crossed) that there is an acceptable bolt on to solve the camber problem.


Any one want to toss out some thoughts or suggestions?


TIA

[cooljess76]

Check out Ireland Engineering for the rear.

[gimp]

Looks like the DB lost my response, but...


If he doesn't have enough front camber, get a set of camber shims from Bimmerworld. Cheap and easy.

If he's worried he has too much and will eat up tires, he doesn't. Toe kills tires, not (so much) camber. When he gets it aligned, have them put zero toe in it. I run -2.0* camber up front with zero toe on the street, and -3.5* with toe out for races.

[96cali]

This from bimmerworld:

E36 Front Camber Shim Kit

Precision cut aluminum shims - increase static camber.

If you need more negative front camber in your E36, adding these shims is one of the easiest methods. These shims are precision cut from 6061 aluminum for strength and weight. Full shim kit includes 0.030", 0.060", 0.120" shim plates which can be used in combination for precise adjustment.

May be used in combination with other performance suspension parts, including fixed or slide adjustable camber plates. Fits all E36 3 Series cars (1992-1999) and Z3. Kit includes 6 shim plates and required longer strut bolts.

I think he wants to decrease negative camber, no? Here is a thread on a camber correction bolt with part #'s:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...=camber+plates

[mamba]

Originally Posted by 96cali

I think he wants to decrease negative camber, no? Here is a thread on a camber correction bolt with part #'s:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...=camber+plates

Yeah, we want to decrease negative camber so we can get close to factory alignment specs and not eat through tires. I know a little camber is OK, but as I said, we are very concerned about premature tire wear. What is the acceptable street performance range for camber and toe in your guys' opinion? I read that above linked thread about the "crash bolts." I am familiar with them from my mk2 that I had, but several posts in that thread warn that it's not a very good solution to the problem. However, there really isn't anything presented to show why it would be a bad idea to run them. Looks like they'll work to me. I know H&R makes them for dubs and I'm sure for many other applications. Is there something special about the e36 config or BMWs in general where the smaller bolt hurts performance or longevity? Seems like if it's a factory offered part, it can't be all that bad.


Thoughts? And thanks to all for the replies so far!

[gimp]

Zero toe on the amount of camber he got from the drop is probably exactly what he's looking for. Little to no abnormal wear... and it doesn't cost more than the alignment you were going to get anyway.

[jenkinskg]

Am I correct in finding the bmw part#07119900587 camber correction bolt is just longer to allow washers to be installed to adjust the camber?

[spidertri]

No, the bolt has a smaller diameter shank so you can move the knuckle in/out slightly.

The washers are used at a different place on the knuckle and can only be used to add negative camber.