» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | 1999 M3 Swap 09-07-2023 10:10 PM 05-02-2024 08:18 PM 6 Replies, 391,479 Views | | | | | | 05-18-2006, 04:25 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 822 | ? ABOUT BUSHINGS I am going to replace my control arm bushings along with the ball joints on my car and have a couple questions regarding bushings. I have Bilstein Sport shocks with Bavarian Autosports lowering springs. Should I upgrade to a different bushing for my set up? Or should I buy the OE bushing? | | | 05-18-2006, 06:07 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,587 | I would look into the 96+ E36 M3 control arm bushings. Much more solid than the stock ones, but still fairly inexpensive. | | | 05-18-2006, 06:16 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 867 | e30 m3-solid /offset solid ball joints are a good idea, better yet, replace the arms altogether. josh __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] | | | 05-18-2006, 06:19 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 | To confuse things more, I went with 95 M3 offset bushings and control arm. __________________ ...steven BMW CCA #146825 1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i www.bmwcca.org | | | 05-18-2006, 06:30 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: southern CA Posts: 127 | I like the eyeball arm bushings __________________ 1996 318ti sport model, m3 bumper cover, velocity splitter, AKG shift knob, factory clears, super sprint exhaust, UUC floormats, UUC tranny mounts, UUC clutch bushings, UUC shifter bushings, Powerflex LCABS... replaced with treehouse eyeballs, front sway bar bushings, RTABS, TMS rear shock mounts, Bilsteins, Xbrace, sparco strut brace, AKG subframe bushings, AKG differential mount bushing, M coupe shifter, meyle ball joints and sway bar endlinks | | | 05-18-2006, 06:36 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 822 | Thanks for replies! Do any of you have the same shock and spring set up as I do? | | | 05-18-2006, 06:45 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 822 | Quote: Originally Posted by 1996 328ti To confuse things more, I went with 95 M3 offset bushings and control arm. | What is the difference between the E36 M3 control arms and the E36 ti control arms? Do the M3 arms fit without modification? What type of difference did the offset bushings make? Are the M3 balljoints solid like the Meyle ball joints? | | | 05-18-2006, 09:48 PM | #8 | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 | i have bilstein sports and bav auto springs. i went with meyle solid metal ball joints (although if i was doing it myself, i'd just use the meyle control arms with the ball joints already mounted) and e30 m3 offset LCABs. it's very nice ... crisp and tight. EDIT: i wanted to try treehouse racing eyeball arms instead of the stock lollipops and LCABs, but i haven't yet. __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts 2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | 05-18-2006, 10:10 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 822 | What do the offset bushings do? What are the benefits to having offset bushings? Is it better for a lowered set up? | | | 05-18-2006, 10:18 PM | #10 | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 | slightly more caster (pushes the wheels forward a bit). the m3 bushings are also solid, unlike the stock ones. __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts 2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | 05-18-2006, 10:21 PM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 822 | So it increases the wheel base a little bit? | | | 05-19-2006, 05:22 PM | #12 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 822 | What do the offset bushings feel like? I think I might buy the E30 M3 offset bushings but would like some more information before I buy them. Otherwise I might by the E36 M3 bushings but they arent completely solid. I was not able to find the E36 M3 offset bushings. The E30 offset bushing are sold individually for $ 54.95 ea. and the set of two E36 M3 bushings is $ 59.95 ea. from bavauto.com. | | | 05-19-2006, 06:08 PM | #13 | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 | i think the only e36 m3 offset bushings are from the 95 m3. what do you mean by "what do they feel like"? i'm guessing the differences between the offset and centered solid bushings will be subtle. the advantage of the solid bushings is less deflection under load, but possibly a little more harshness in the ride (can't say i really noticed any - but i sure noticed the change in feel/handling with the combination of solid bushings and solid metal ball joints). __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts 2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | 05-19-2006, 06:18 PM | #14 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 822 | Quote: Originally Posted by cali-ti i think the only e36 m3 offset bushings are from the 95 m3. what do you mean by "what do they feel like"? i'm guessing the differences between the offset and centered solid bushings will be subtle. the advantage of the solid bushings is less deflection under load, but possibly a little more harshness in the ride (can't say i really noticed any - but i sure noticed the change in feel/handling with the combination of solid bushings and solid metal ball joints). | I just looked up the 95 M3 offset solid bushings and they are 89.95 for a set of two. I think I might go for them. I already replaced my left front control arm with the Meyle set up but the right side has the OE plastic core ball joint that failed on me so its time to replace that side with the meyle and my bushing are bad on both sides so I think I'm gonna go with the 95 offset bushings. Do you think I will be happy with this set up? Im gonna put a front camber kit on down the road as well to help even out the tire tread wear. | | | 05-19-2006, 06:25 PM | #15 | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 | i don't know for sure what makes you happy, but i certainly like that setup any idea what your alignment readings are? you might be able to get away with the camber correction bolts that are listed in the "correcting camber" KB article. those are really cheap. __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts 2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |