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Old 01-23-2006, 05:23 PM   #1
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Default Adding one-touch turn signals

As most of you have seen or read, some of the latest models from Germany will flash the turn signals 3 or 4 times when you briefly tap the turn stalk. Ron Stygar and I figured out how to add this to the E36 3ers and Z3s a couple years back after a bunch of Z3 guys over at bimmerfest.com got wind of this feature and all enthusiastic about adding it to their cars.

While it may seem a little frivolous -- it did to Ron and me when we first heard about it -- it is actually quite handy and useful. With just a brief tap of the turn stalk, you can squirt off a string of 3 or 5 flashes when you wish to change lanes, effectively "fire and forget", and then direct your attention to the surrounding traffic you are about to crunch into. Ron also uses his to fire off some flashes when he goes through an intersection at speed. That way, he doesn't have to worry about latching the turn stalk and forgetting to cancel it.

I designed and programmed a small automotive controller to add this one-touch turn signal feature to our cars. I have been making up a harness for people to insert the controller between the turn stalk and turn signal relay, along side the steering column. Here is a picture of an early prototype that shows how it plugs in:



Everything you see stretching to the floor neatly tucks in and coils up under the dash.

The installation is plug and play, doesn't disturb the stock wiring, and fully reversible. After you remove the driver's kick (facia) and U.S. knee protection panels, the hardest part is probably unclipping and unplugging the turn stalk connector.

The controller can also remove the 116 mph limiter on M44 and later cars. That installation is not quite as plug and play. You need to run a wire over to the ABS/ASC+T controller (behind the glove box), pop out a connector contact, insert another and then slide a couple contacts together and fix them with heat shrink.

As to cost, I have been charging people $60 + $30 + shipping for the controller and harness, or a little a bit more for a harness for a non-U.S. car with one-sided parking lights. If anyone is interested in a gizmo, they can email at johnf at freenet dot de (preferred), or send me a PM. I don't think anyone that has added one has been disappointed!
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i created a knowledgebase article too ... http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthrea...0202#post50202
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it is actually law over here now that all newly produced cars have to have that feature. my friend is a driving instructor and says it causes loads of problems when his students press the wrong indicator and try to change their minds.
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Do you have a mod for the single-side parking lights?
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i created a knowledgebase article too ... http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthrea...0202#post50202
I wonder if there is a way I can edit the copy to correct a couple typos.
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That was Ron's and my first reaction as well. But then we starting using the lane change feature and found it is really cool. Unlike adding white tail lights, for example, it is something you also constantly notice and enjoy.

I think it would be amusing to have more people add it to their 'ti's: just as a little reminder to some drivers of newer models who think their cars are tight.
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it is actually law over here now that all newly produced cars have to have that feature. my friend is a driving instructor and says it causes loads of problems when his students press the wrong indicator and try to change their minds.
I didn't realize it was now required elsewhere. BMW's system can be kind of confusing because: the signals can stay latched after the stalk is no longer latched and to unlatch/cancel the signals you have to purposely tap but not "latch" the stalk.

Fortunately, we preserved and only augmented the turn stalk's traditional behavoir, and didn't open that can of worms. If you find the signal is latched on, you simply unlatch it; if you signal a lane change and decide against it, you give another tap and signal you are moving back.
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Do you have a mod for the single-side parking lights?
You bet. The BMW CCA Roundel even published it. You need to substitute a European-market turn stalk with parking light detents and contacts, run three wires to +12V and the split parking light circuits, and splice in to them with three comb connector sleeves.
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Just so I am clear, the turn signal indicators in the dash flash 4 times, just like the actual corner lights? Would this work with or without OBC? Any chance we can get a "group buy" and save on shipping? I realize you are in Germany.

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That was Ron's and my first reaction as well. But then we starting using the lane change feature and found it is really cool. Unlike adding white tail lights, for example, it is something you also constantly notice and enjoy.

I think it would be amusing to have more people add it to their 'ti's: just as a little reminder to some drivers of newer models who think their cars are tight.
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You can code the controller to flash the turn signals 3 or 5 times and choose what's best for where you live. Having an OBC should be no problem (I have one on my car, and I think Ron's ti has one as well).

I like the idea of a group buy to save on shipping if someone is willing to receive the package. I don't want to fattening up the German Post with what they want to send small parcels (more than twice as much as sending things the other way!).
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I'm in for one...........

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You can code the controller to flash the turn signals 3 or 5 times and choose what's best for where you live. Having an OBC should be no problem (I have one on my car, and I think Ron's ti has one as well).

I like the idea of a group buy to save on shipping if someone is willing to receive the package. I don't want to fattening up the German Post with what they want to send small parcels (more than twice as much as sending things the other way!).
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John, did you have some other controllers available as well? if so, can you please describe those and their functions, plus the costs?

after that, L8, i'd set up a group buy thread to gather interest.
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Eric

That is a good idea. What are all the controllers?
I'm too lazy to start a group buy thread, how about you do it?

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John, did you have some other controllers available as well? if so, can you please describe those and their functions, plus the costs?

after that, L8, i'd set up a group buy thread to gather interest.
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i can once we hear back from john. i thought he had at least one other controller, but i don't remember what all it did. once we get that info and pricing on it (if there is another), i'll start up a group buy thread. cool?

john, did i fix all the spelling corrections you wanted in the HOW-TO for one touch turns signal mod? if not, PM me what still needs to be tweaked and i'll get it updated. thx.
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