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Old 03-22-2005, 05:25 AM   #1
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Default Rust on lower lip of the hatch ... NOOOoooooo!!

while working on the interior of my car to replace some other things, i noticed rust starting on the lower lip of the hatch (lowest part where the latch is). maybe i could post a pic at some later point. the paint is starting to bubble from the rust underneath. now i really hate this damn salt-dumping, cold, snowy state (i'll spare you from my other choice words for it)!

any suggestions to (hopefully) save it? i'd really rather not have to replace the whole damn hatch
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:11 AM   #2
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on my roof i have a a small chip in the paint that looks a bit rusty.
is this the paint that has gone rusty or the chasis???

what should i do?? it is small like this big | |

will i know if it is spreading will the paint chip off???
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:55 AM   #3
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i'd get a touch up kit for that. paint won't rust so i would get to that before it gets worse.
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acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts




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Old 03-30-2005, 02:13 AM   #4
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cal-ti; sand that mother down. there's some stuff (i'll have to ask a friend) that works very well in curbing oxidation, you'll want to use some of that as well. if it's on the lower lip, you can probably use rattle-cans to cover it up. remember primer.

throw some pictures up if you can.
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thanks cali-t,

it is just a really small chip, is there anything i need to do before touching it up, or do i just touch-up on top of the little rusty bit???
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Old 03-31-2005, 12:15 AM   #6
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you're gonna want to get rid of the oxidation underneath, otherwise it'll just keep spreading (even with the paint covering it). 3M makes a pen-like sanding tool for small areas.


cal; on the other thread you mentioned the moisture might be coming from the inside -- i would examine the rear wiper gasket and the weatherstripping underneath the glazing for leaks. you may have to pull off the trim on the inside to be thorough however.
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Old 03-31-2005, 01:10 AM   #7
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i'll be inside the back of my car (what's left of it) tonight so i'll work on pulling off the interior hatch trim to take a look. i also found (joy joy!) a pool of water underneath my rear seat when i had it out (while replacing some other parts and looking for the source of my fuel smell) so i pulled damn near everything out of the rear interior to find the source (my guess at this point is the cali top, yey me!). my weight distribution is getting seriously thrown off now with the spare out (to get at the diff easier when i discovered the passenger side half shaft had "popped" out of the diff slightly) and all the interior out. but luckily it appears the fuel line couplings (viewable underneath the access points underneath the rear seat) appear to be rusting along nicely (driver's side is the likely culprit of the smell as it became fairly pungent when i removed that access cover)! anyone every had to replace any fuel lines there? looks joyously fun to gain access to (note heavy use of sarcasm).

thanks for the suggestion aceyx, i'll be investigating and hopefully can get a pic or two. anyone need pics of the rear with everything removed?
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:41 AM   #8
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ok, after some good yanking to get the largest piece of the hatch trim off, i'm now faced with the two side pieces. i'd rather not break any of the tabs, but i'm not sure how they release. anyone have any pointers? i'm referring to #5 and #7 on the attached diagram.

there IS rust on the inner seam (can only be seen after removing trim piece #1). it appears there has been runoff from ... drum roll ... the trunk lid grip (piece that sits above the license plate which holds the lights for the plate). it was the only place i found any evidence of runoff on the inside of the hatch. i have not yet removed this piece as it holds the locking mechanism and it was getting late.

a couple of suggestions:

1) do NOT use metal screws to hold your license plate (at least not any that will rust when exposed to the elements).

2) keep an eye on the trailing lip/edge of your hatch, keep it flushed out if you're in a state that uses salt during the winter and keep it waxed. if you're worried, pull the trim piece off and check inside.

no pics yet, maybe tomorrow night, need to get some sleep.
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acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts




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Old 04-11-2005, 05:08 AM   #9
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finally took some pics of the rust on my hatch lip.
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current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray

acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts




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