 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | | | 1999 M3 Swap 09-07-2023 10:10 PM 05-02-2024 08:18 PM 6 Replies, 405,218 Views | |  |  |  |  09-25-2006, 08:40 PM | #1 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,152 |  WTB front strut brace
Anybody selling their Racing Dynamics or Hartge front strut brace? You can PM me pics and price if available. I use paypal to pay to make it easy. Thanks in advance.  |  | | | 10-05-2006, 05:18 PM | #2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston MA Posts: 221 |
I want a front strut brace too. Do you think we can get a group buy from just two customers? I already has an X-brace install in the bottom recently. __________________
1998 BMW 318ti M-Tech Sport Silver (Gone to member leeko617)
CURRENT: 2015 BMW X1, 2004 BMW 330ci Convertible, 1998 Porsche Boxster, 2001 BMW 525i Touring
GONE: 2000 Audi A4, 2002 VW Passat, 1985 VW Cabriolet | | | | | 10-05-2006, 05:25 PM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston MA Posts: 221 |
If you notice, there is a WTB posting from Lem0n (Boston) in August also looking for a front strut brace. Should we contact him to see if he is up for a group buy? __________________
1998 BMW 318ti M-Tech Sport Silver (Gone to member leeko617)
CURRENT: 2015 BMW X1, 2004 BMW 330ci Convertible, 1998 Porsche Boxster, 2001 BMW 525i Touring
GONE: 2000 Audi A4, 2002 VW Passat, 1985 VW Cabriolet | | | | | 10-05-2006, 05:38 PM | #4 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 |
I might be in for a group buy. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone
1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | | | 10-05-2006, 06:18 PM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilroy Posts: 158 |
I would like to join in a group buy also, but it would have to be the one of the two u mentioned.....Hartge or Racing Dynamics. | | | | | 10-05-2006, 07:12 PM | #6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: çî†ÿ øf åNgëL§, CA Posts: 5,314 |
strut bar is a strut bar. I dont think brand matters in this case. I bought one for like 20 bucks. The bar is strong as hell. I think i have the same one Dusten has. | | | | | 10-05-2006, 07:27 PM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilroy Posts: 158 |
Quote: Originally Posted by 1996Bmw318TI  strut bar is a strut bar. I dont think brand matters in this case. I bought one for like 20 bucks. The bar is strong as hell. I think i have the same one Dusten has. | I cant agree with u more, but i would like to keep my upgrades within the same group of manufacturers. It's just an anal thing about me i guess. I have the hartge spoiler, pedals, and e-brake. I have the Dinan wheels, chip, and soon exhaust and intake. I just dont want to have 9 different manufacturar names all over my car......personal choice. | | | | | 10-05-2006, 07:59 PM | #8 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,152 |
I think we got a member that is going to start working there in a couple of weeks. Maybe he can get us a good deal on the Racing Dynamics front brace. Let me check around to see any vendors can give us a group buy. Spread the word and see if we can get more people to join the group buy. You know the more the better the price becomes!  | | | | | 10-05-2006, 09:01 PM | #9 | | doesn't care about you. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,925 |
Quote: Originally Posted by 1996Bmw318TI strut bar is a strut bar. I dont think brand matters in this case. I bought one for like 20 bucks. The bar is strong as hell. I think i have the same one Dusten has. | My strut bar is junk. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do anything for me. Sway bars with pivots are pointless.... I bought mine for the hollow aluminum center section, I plan on making strut top mounts some day... __________________ 
'99 Dinan M3 | | | | | 10-05-2006, 10:37 PM | #10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston MA Posts: 221 |
Where in the world can you buy a strut bar for 20 bucks. That's just enough for shipping and handling fee. __________________
1998 BMW 318ti M-Tech Sport Silver (Gone to member leeko617)
CURRENT: 2015 BMW X1, 2004 BMW 330ci Convertible, 1998 Porsche Boxster, 2001 BMW 525i Touring
GONE: 2000 Audi A4, 2002 VW Passat, 1985 VW Cabriolet | | | | | 10-05-2006, 10:42 PM | #11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lincoln Park Capitol Hill, Washington DC Posts: 741 |
Quote: Originally Posted by DustenT My strut bar is junk. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do anything for me. Sway bars with pivots are pointless....
I bought mine for the hollow aluminum center section, I plan on making strut top mounts some day... | DustenT, I bought mine from a guy who designed and made it himself. 2 triangular shaped brackets (for the strut nuts) connected by one thin bar with supports. It made the front end turn in more responsive, especially with the X Brace underneath. __________________
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1997 318ti, Hellrot (Bright Red), Dinan Stage 2 Chip
16x7 OEM sport Wheels/X-Brace/Custom Strut Brace/Cold Air Intake/M-Tec Steering Wheel/Koni Adjustable FrontShocks/ Bilstein Sport Rear Shocks /H&R Sport Springs/Custom fabricated strut tower brace/Rear Strut brace, Stromung Exhaust
Future Mods: E46 17" wheels or Kosei K-1 17x8.5s | | | | | 10-05-2006, 10:58 PM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St. Johns, Florida Posts: 2,242 |
check ebay for a used NON-HINGED bar, IE BMP's, Sparco, IAAS(I think they have one).
They do come up for small change sometimes. other times it's $$$ for something not really worth it, cause of an ineffective design. | | | | | 10-05-2006, 11:11 PM | #13 | | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland Or Posts: 2,666 |
There are two types of tower braces. The first is intended to maintain a set measurement between the tops of the strut towers which keeps relative camber constant. Any bar that connects between the tops of the tower touching no other part of the car is this type and it DOES NOT MATTER if it has heims or welded solid thats about all it does. You get only a small amount of stability in any other direction not worth worrying about. The second type is a triangulated strut bar, this one controls camber, caster and in general does what most people think the first one does. To do this job the bar has to connect the tops of the two towers together and both to 1 more location minimum, usually the firewall or on some cars the front radiator support. Ideally there is proximity between the "third" point and a roll cage brace or as near as possible to the tranny tunnel. The triangulation locates the tops of the towers both right to left and front to rear which means the tops of the struts don't orbit. If they orbit you get small changes in caster, camber, bump steer, ackerman etc... There are few aftermarket strut braces that perform as well as one built by a race fab shop to fit your car. And the funny thing is that it likely cost less than all the frilly foo foo "wifes term for name brand " units. I built the last one on a race car for 12 dollars worth of tubing, and about an hour or two of time cutting the rings for the tops of the towers. Dave __________________
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2005 330xi - Mtech 1 - 6spd - Orient Blue/Black | | | | | 10-06-2006, 12:01 AM | #14 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: çî†ÿ øf åNgëL§, CA Posts: 5,314 |
Well the way i see it, its just a bar. You need a strong bar and pretty much your covered. I dont think brand plays a big roll on this like buying pistons pulleys etc.
Now what i always thought the purpose for the a strut bar is so that if you get in a car accident by getting hit in the fenders, the bar will prevent from the sides to squish in and f*ck up the motor. I thought this because its mounted on each end and the bar is strong. But i find out its for performance wise (handleling). Ill be glad if someone can correct me on what a strut bar really does. The most i know its that it stiffens the front......
Ok fine, my bar didnt cost 20 bucks, it costed 23.53 When i went to go buy my CF hood, there was another shop on the side. They had all kinds of sh!t like intakes, exhausts and suspensions and a lot of good quality parts. I felt like jacking some Sh!t because i had my dads big truck and all the parts were outside the little garage and i didnt see anyone inside. (of coarse i was just saying to my cousin, im gonna steal some stuff but messing around.) So i asked for a strut bar and thats how much it costed me.
I put the brackets in and by the time i was going to place the bar, the bar hit the intake manifold. But im sure it will fit once i install my DASC. Dusten, how much did yours cost? Does it do the trick? I think mines looks like yours. Anyway, heres 2 pics.  (i took this pictures with the camera in a standing position) 
The brackets are currently placed on the towers.
I was going to buy the rear strut for the hatch but i didnt want to. I dont want to stiffen the car that much. Unless you guys think i should? What are the benefits of have one? To eliminate understeer or something like that? Think i should get one, i could also get that for 20 bucks. Sorry, 23.53. | | | | |
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