1 series full specs

[larryn]

Originally Posted by Den

1 CSL anyone?
Something around, say, 2730 lbs?

Bueller?
Bueller?
BMW NA?

You can lose 100lbs right off the bat by changing those heavy wheels and runflats. I did that on my e90.

What I'm really wondering is if it uses the e46 diff or the e90 diff. I am definitely going with a locker on this one. The e46 LSD can be had for about $1800, where the e90 ones are more in the $4k range.

How bout a retrofit of the Cali Roof on the 1er?

[Den]

Perhaps we are barking up the wrong tree by asking for a lightweight BMW. Maybe it would be easier to get a RWD Mini from them!

[Zacki]

Originally Posted by larryn

How bout a retrofit of the Cali Roof on the 1er?

sex!

Originally Posted by Den

The 328 puts out 230hp. Even if Shiv weren't already working on it, I would think that getting way more than 300hp with a turbo or two would be a given. It's pretty obvious that the factory is selling it de-tuned. . .maybe to leave some room for the 400hp M3. . .maybe for CAFE. . .

I still don't see a reason to become very excited over the 1er.
Should I be excited because the 135 might be ~200lbs lighter than the 335(1600 kg, 3527 lbs.), and will not be available as a hatchback?

The current M5 puts out 500hp, but I'm really not interested in a 4100-lb. car.

M6?

[Den]

Originally Posted by Zacki

M6?

M6 is a step in the right direction, but still fat at 1710 kg (3770 lbs.)


I found a wiki on the 1er. Looks like it tops out at 1450 kg in Euro trim with the 130i. Add a few kg for turbo hardware, larger brakes, and whatever crap they decide to stuff into the US 135i, and it will be surprising if they bring it in under 1500 kg.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_1-series

Curb weight 1320–1450 kg

Engine(s)
1.6 L I4
2.0 L I4
2.0 L diesel I4
3.0 L I6

[larryn]

lol. A Mini S JCW in RWD would be cool.

I bet it will be around 3250-3300lbs. The e90 is about 200lbs more than that, which would be about right... Knock another 100 off for wheels, and it's not that far from the 'ti's weight, yet double the power.

Oooh. This could be my One Lap of America car that I've dreamed of. Reliability, power, and tossability. That's probably a good call for 2009. Who wants to co-drive?

[Den]

Originally Posted by larryn

Oooh. This could be my One Lap of America car that I've dreamed of. . . Who wants to co-drive?

Right here, Dude!

[kelso]

100 for wheels? 25 pounds at each corner? not a shot in hell your going to shave off that much unsprung weight lol... theres got to be some easy ways to reduce the weight though

[larryn]

Originally Posted by kelso

100 for wheels? 25 pounds at each corner? not a shot in hell your going to shave off that much unsprung weight lol... theres got to be some easy ways to reduce the weight though

I did on my e90. Stock wheels are 28.5lbs, and runflats averaged 29lbs each. I switched to non-runflats and lightweight wheels (16.4lbs), and lost over 20lbs each corner. Acceleration and throttle response was immediately noticeable. Those runflats are ridiculously heavy.

[tastade]

I don't think we will see a 4 cyl. or a hatch from BMW again, or at least not for a long time. BMW bought Mini for that reason. Mini is their introductory brand that offers 4 cylinders, light weight, and fun. If you want more mature you buy a BMW. I would consider a 1 series coupe as it is very nice looking, but prefer the hatch.

[Den]

Originally Posted by tastade

I don't think we will see a 4 cyl. or a hatch from BMW again, or at least not for a long time. BMW bought Mini for that reason. Mini is their introductory brand that offers 4 cylinders, light weight, and fun. If you want more mature you buy a BMW. I would consider a 1 series coupe as it is very nice looking, but prefer the hatch.

Why the perception in this country that a sedan or coupe is more mature than a hatchback, but a wagon is too mature? A hatchback is just a lightweight SUV. I think there's plenty of room in the US market between the Mini and the X3 for something like a Subaru Outback, or smaller like a 1er hatch.

Anyhow. . .I'm turned off by the whole 1er thing now that it is obvious that the 1er is just a replacement for the niche that used to be occupied by the 3er, now that the 3er is fatter, and, if they manage to squeeze any out, BMW won't be bringing any sub-3000 lb cars to the US. . .with the possible exception of an M1/M2, the lightweight 250hp turbo 4 cylinder we've been hearing rumors about, but it would probably cost ~$45k, so they wouldn't bring that to the US because nobody would buy it, including me.

All this jizz about how BMW cares so much for the environment, and they won't sell a car that weighs less than 3000 lbs in the country that burns most of the gasoline in the world. I don't care how efficient the motor is; if the car were lighter, it would be that much more efficient.

[Den]

BMW press page.
(Scroll down for more jizz about the fat lil' 1er.)

http://www.press.bmwgroup.com/pressclub/us02.nsf

[DustenT]

I don't think we'll see many cars under 3000 lbs anymore. All the safety equipment and reinforcements that are needed for todays safety standards are heavy.

Why the 1er? TUNING! http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=165585

Software and exhaust will net a 100hp gain!!

Diffsonline will have an LSD for this, if it doesn't have one.

[Den]

Originally Posted by DustenT

Why the 1er?
TUNING!http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=165585

Software and exhaust will net a 100hp gain!!

The 328 puts out 230hp. Even if Shiv weren't already working on it, I would think that getting way more than 300hp with a turbo or two would be a given. It's pretty obvious that the factory is selling it de-tuned. . .maybe to leave some room for the 400hp M3. . .maybe for CAFE. . .

I still don't see a reason to become very excited over the 1er.
Should I be excited because the 135 might be ~200lbs lighter than the 335(1600 kg, 3527 lbs.), and will not be available as a hatchback?

The current M5 puts out 500hp, but I'm really not interested in a 4100-lb. car.

[pdxmotorhead]

I'd prefer a turbocharged all wheel drive one.....

Dave

[3DGE]

funnny http://youtube.com/watch?v=4cCtoPmeaHo

AWESOME!!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=4gseTGwppbg