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Old 05-30-2009, 06:09 AM   #16
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cool, and no problem on the research haha i got lots of free time and i know my way around the bmw parts system after using it since i was born :P
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Old 05-30-2009, 06:19 AM   #17
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The swap manual does go into this to some degree. You probably don't have to move the battery if you're not going to use the secondary air pump. I'm not sure how the SMOG laws are here for an OBD-II engine in an OBD-I car. If you need to meet OBD-II you will need to use the SAP, but it can be relocated to keep the battery in the same spot. You may also have to add a fuel take pressure sensor as some ti's don't have them and will throw a code (P0451) on the six cylinder DME. If you want to move the battery anyway, the rest of the e36 use a distribution block by the right shock tower for jump starting and connecting the main power leads to. I don't know the path that the cable takes to the back of the car, but I'm going to be pulling one out of my M3 donor at some point. The various trunk parts MC900 talked about would also be needed if you want an OEM finish.
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Old 06-13-2009, 02:40 AM   #18
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I want to do the same thing, Taking whatever I can from the M3 coupe. I thought about just sinking it into where the tools for the spare are but its till way too big, even the stock battery in the ti is a bit too tall, I was considering using another battery that just fits down there, but I dunno, I'll figure it out as I go. the darn m3 battery is like 60 lbs though, which IMHO is DEFINITELY worth having in the rear, especially with the added front weight of the M engine. If I figure out a good solution I'll post it up, but I probably won't get around to it right away.
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Old 06-13-2009, 02:52 AM   #19
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JFYI, the Ti and M3 use the same battery.
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Old 06-13-2009, 05:23 AM   #20
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I think this may be his set up...

http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merc...gory_Code=BATT

I like it & wanna fo the same thing.

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I am going to have to PM Clex2 about his battery, I think he did it too...
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Old 06-13-2009, 05:31 AM   #21
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Marko;

I am almost certain that that is Clex2's car in the pics... I am going to PM him in the am to try and see the car on Sunday am if he's available.
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JFYI, the Ti and M3 use the same battery.
Maybe the person before me changed my m3 battery then or its different for the '95 coupe or something, because my m3 coupe battery is like 2x the size of the one in my ti, but fits perfectly into the slot in the m3 rear. and would never fit in the stock box in the Ti.
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:35 PM   #23
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Maybe the person before me changed my m3 battery then or its different for the '95 coupe or something, because my m3 coupe battery is like 2x the size of the one in my ti, but fits perfectly into the slot in the m3 rear. and would never fit in the stock box in the Ti.

its just the dynamics of the battery. The dimensions for the slot in the ti trunk is way different. When I had my M3 donor car i measured and looked at the measurements and location of the slot in the back. The ti is just built narrower. Sucks. I may go the dyna-batt route in the end b/c i hate looking at the BIG original battery taking up space in the trunk.
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:38 AM   #24
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Ok, I have done more research on batteries than I ever wanted ( http://www.stealth316.com/2-dynabatt.htm )

I may have found the best solution for me;

A Miata battery!

This one:

http://www.apexbattery.com/miata-bat...batteries.html

has close to 500 CCA's, 28 AH, and weighs 25 lbs... (this comares to the Dyna-Batt or Odyssey battery which has only 280cca's...) It should perform as well as a full size battery for my use (no major aftermarket audio or other electronics).

What makes it really better than anything else is it's size! It actually fits in the right rear hatch area with the plastic bin removed and a few inches of trim and insulation trimmmed away... No structural changes, no loss of tool tray or spare tire either!

Also, it is a truly sealed battery that requires no venting...

I will take pictures of the process and the finished product when completed!
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:49 PM   #25
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I made my own battery-box

The spare wheel is to small, doesn't fit with the M3 brakes, so threw it away
I welded a small box (10cm deep) and made a hole in the trunk, glued it in the spare-wheel place and secured the battery.

You can't even see someting is changed in the trunk, this is how it looks like;


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that's a really cool setup, don't ground your amp to the negative battery post though, use a chassis ground or you'll get feedback through the sub from it being tied into your electrical system, that cable's also much too long, you don't want it longer than 40 cm or so

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Old 09-22-2009, 05:31 AM   #27
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Doesn't make sense to me to relocate the stock battery.. You are just moving the same big piece of weight around and actually adding more weight to the car from the thick guage wire you are going to have to run..

Best batteries to get are any of the ones made by penn battery company.. This is the manufacturing company that makes Braille batteries. So if you can find big crank, deka, etc... they are identical to Braille.

Braille just offers a longer warranty than the other companies that rebadge the penn batteries. Go with a 20 pound sealed AGM battery and you will be good to go. I'm running the 13 pound in my car and it has to be on a trickle charger to stay charged.

Advance auto parts sells the penn batteries as powercrank 4-wheeler, motorcycle, and boat batteries. Don't be confused by the CCA rating that the manufacturer or retailer publish. Try to find actual testing data on the internet. My battery is rated for 200CCA and it actually tests at well over 380CCA at 70 degrees.
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I am trying to create a solution that anyone can utilize without losing the tools/spare/etc., or requires custom manufacturing. The Miata battery I'm, referencing is sold by Westco, and an alternate Bosch that is readily available at parts stores. It is an SLA battery like the Braille, Odyssey, Dyna-Batt that wouldn't require a constant trickle charger and be feasible for DD duties... Otherwise I would just use a Braille or Odyssey and be done with it...
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james. do you know the dimensions of that miata battery and where i can find it??
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james. do you know the dimensions of that miata battery and where i can find it??
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Look at the apexbattery.com link in post #24. It shows the measurements and stats of the battery. I found the Bosch at the local parts shops (Kragen, Pep boys, Autozone) and the Westco both online and at the local Mazda dealer...
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