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Hello guys. I plan on making a custom rear strut brace these days and would really need your help. Could someone who has a rear strut brace please send me a photo? I want to have an example for what i'll make instead of making it all on my own. What i need is a photo of the brace plate, where it bolts on the tower! Hope someone can send me a photo...! Thanks! __________________
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Copy this design. http://www.strong-strut.com/Butt-Strut.htm Quote: Originally Posted by 316i compact  Hello guys. I plan on making a custom rear strut brace these days and would really need your help. Could someone who has a rear strut brace please send me a photo? I want to have an example for what i'll make instead of making it all on my own. What i need is a photo of the brace plate, where it bolts on the tower! Hope someone can send me a photo...! Thanks! | __________________ 
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There's no such thing as a rear strut brace for the ti because it doesn't have rear struts. Such a brace would be pretty useless. | | | | | 01-28-2007, 11:14 PM | #4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 |
Are we getty petty? There are rear shock tower braces. That is probably what he meant. Quote: Originally Posted by ClubSport There's no such thing as a rear strut brace for the ti because it doesn't have rear struts. Such a brace would be pretty useless. | __________________
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Quote: Originally Posted by L84THSKY Are we getty petty? There are rear shock tower braces. That is probably what he meant. | Being shock towers, they aren't stressed in the lateral direction like the front STRUT towers are, and a brace there wouldn't help like it does up front. | | | | | 01-28-2007, 11:30 PM | #6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 |
That's why I gave him the link to the Butt Strut. People are swearing by them. Quote: Originally Posted by ClubSport Being shock towers, they aren't stressed in the lateral direction like the front STRUT towers are, and a brace there wouldn't help like it does up front. | __________________
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Quote: Originally Posted by ClubSport Being shock towers, they aren't stressed in the lateral direction like the front STRUT towers are, and a brace there wouldn't help like it does up front. | That's funny! I have yet to see a touring car that doesn't have bracing between the rear shock towers. Cheers, __________________ 
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this butt strut looks mighty interesting ! has anyone tried one or anything similar?
i cant find a price for them either? ... __________________ 
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$340.00 http://www.strong-strut.com/pricing.htm Gonna probably get one this year. Quote: Originally Posted by Mallard this butt strut looks mighty interesting ! has anyone tried one or anything similar?
i cant find a price for them either? ... | __________________
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What kind of damage does one of those things do if it gets hit? I'd think you'd mess up your suspension really bad if that thing got snagged on something... __________________ 
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I can't see how that Butt Strut would do much. It just seems to connect the two main subframe mounting posts. But, the main subframe crossmember should cover that job pretty well.
I wonder if it's possible to come up with a rear X-Brace. The normal x-brace helps connect the front subframe to the chassis; I wonder if there would be a good chassis mounting point in the rear half of the car? That whole rear subframe is only connected to the chassis at 3 points. You'd think there would be room for improvement. Hmmm.....
There are actually two mini chassis braces on the car already, but I wonder if the rear subframe moves around much, even with urethane subframe mounts? | | | | | 03-12-2007, 04:19 AM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 290 |
Quote: Originally Posted by H3_2.1-ti That's funny!
I have yet to see a touring car that doesn't have bracing between the rear shock towers.
Cheers, | What kind of cars were they? | | | | | 03-12-2007, 04:24 AM | #13 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 290 |
Quote: Originally Posted by CirrusSR22 I can't see how that Butt Strut would do much. | Me neither. Whether you add a butt strut or a rear shock tower brace, all you're doing is building a rectangle. Rectangles are NOT strong shapes in torsion. Triangles are. This is why the OEM x-brace is so effective. | | | | |
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