 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | | | |  |  |  | |  03-05-2007, 05:29 PM | #1 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, Ohio Posts: 868 |  which selector rod with SSK?
I recently instralled a short shift kit in my ti.
The donor was an m3.
Refer to the attached file
I installed items 5 and 9 from the m3
I installed items 7,10, and 11 new.
I love the action, but it appears the shift lever is in the wrong spot. Too far back and a little too far to the right.
Anyone have this experience?
I was thinking about installing the original selector rod (item 9).
Anyone have some advice for me?
Thanks |  |  | | 03-05-2007, 05:37 PM | #2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 |
I installed the M-Z3 shifter, and replaced the exact same part#s. You need to bend the selector rod to get the shifter where you want. All you need is a benzo-matic torch and a vise. Bend it, and put back in till you get the correct alignment. Quote: Originally Posted by dave45056  I recently instralled a short shift kit in my ti.
The donor was an m3.
Refer to the attached file
I installed items 5 and 9 from the m3
I installed items 7,10, and 11 new.
I love the action, but it appears the shift lever is in the wrong spot. Too far back and a little too far to the right.
Anyone have this experience?
I was thinking about installing the original selector rod (item 9).
Anyone have some advice for me?
Thanks | __________________ 
1998 (July) 318ti, 5-spd
OEM Armrest Blaupunkt Heidelberg CD50 CD Player/Compact Drive MP3 Player Diamond Audio 5.25" rear speakers Navman ICN 530 GPS BMWALARM.COM (with comfort settings) after market alarm system Magnecor 8.5mm wires M-Z3 Shifter/Momo Knob Burlwood Dashboard Stromung Exhaust X-brace Racing Dynamics Front Strut Bar Carbonio C.A.I. 17" Rial Rims Vader Seats/Heated/Lumbar Support M-tech Steering Wheel/Front Sway Bar/Front & Rear Bumper Depos/w 6500K Angel Eyes/6000K HIDs Clear Corners M3 Mirrors UUC Light Weight Flywheel/M5 Clutch/M3 Clutch Slave E28 3.46 LSD/Mcoupe Cover/E30 Flanges & Halfshafts UUC S.S. Brake/Clutch Lines Hartge Roof Spoiler BavAuto Springs Bilstein Sport Struts/Shocks E46 M3 Rear Shock Mounts SPC Front Camber Kit Reiger Hatch Spoiler BavAuto Rear Camber Kit Dinan Stage II Software Turner Rear Sway Bar Reinforcements BMW E46 Auto dimming mirror with Clown Nose alarm Engine Compartment Light Heated Wiper Fluid Retrofit OEM Fire Extinguisher Da'lan Trailer Hitch Rear Sun Shade OEM Fog Light Retrofit H & R MZ3 Rear Sway Bar/ UUC Adjustable End Links Cruise Control Retrofit On Board Computer Retrofit M3 twistie style side skirts Carbon Fiber Hood | | | | | 03-05-2007, 05:52 PM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, Ohio Posts: 868 |
I heard that you have to bend the rod.
But the M3 rod was already bent... roughly in the middle.
My ti rod was also bent, but very close to the connection to the transmission. The distance between the pins connected to the rod was about 20mm different; the ti rod being longer.
I thought bending the rod was to create clearance to the driveshaft, not to put the shifter in th right spot. But I can see that it would do that, too. | | | | | 03-05-2007, 06:14 PM | #4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 |
I bent the rod in the rear to clear the drive shaft. Then I twisted the rod to get the shifter in the center. Quote: Originally Posted by dave45056 I heard that you have to bend the rod.
But the M3 rod was already bent... roughly in the middle.
My ti rod was also bent, but very close to the connection to the transmission. The distance between the pins connected to the rod was about 20mm different; the ti rod being longer.
I thought bending the rod was to create clearance to the driveshaft, not to put the shifter in th right spot. But I can see that it would do that, too. | __________________
1998 (July) 318ti, 5-spd
OEM Armrest Blaupunkt Heidelberg CD50 CD Player/Compact Drive MP3 Player Diamond Audio 5.25" rear speakers Navman ICN 530 GPS BMWALARM.COM (with comfort settings) after market alarm system Magnecor 8.5mm wires M-Z3 Shifter/Momo Knob Burlwood Dashboard Stromung Exhaust X-brace Racing Dynamics Front Strut Bar Carbonio C.A.I. 17" Rial Rims Vader Seats/Heated/Lumbar Support M-tech Steering Wheel/Front Sway Bar/Front & Rear Bumper Depos/w 6500K Angel Eyes/6000K HIDs Clear Corners M3 Mirrors UUC Light Weight Flywheel/M5 Clutch/M3 Clutch Slave E28 3.46 LSD/Mcoupe Cover/E30 Flanges & Halfshafts UUC S.S. Brake/Clutch Lines Hartge Roof Spoiler BavAuto Springs Bilstein Sport Struts/Shocks E46 M3 Rear Shock Mounts SPC Front Camber Kit Reiger Hatch Spoiler BavAuto Rear Camber Kit Dinan Stage II Software Turner Rear Sway Bar Reinforcements BMW E46 Auto dimming mirror with Clown Nose alarm Engine Compartment Light Heated Wiper Fluid Retrofit OEM Fire Extinguisher Da'lan Trailer Hitch Rear Sun Shade OEM Fog Light Retrofit H & R MZ3 Rear Sway Bar/ UUC Adjustable End Links Cruise Control Retrofit On Board Computer Retrofit M3 twistie style side skirts Carbon Fiber Hood | | | | | 03-05-2007, 06:16 PM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St. Johns, Florida Posts: 2,242 |
The M3 selector rod is 195mm(too short) the Ti is 225mm.
A M3 or any other 3ser will not work(I tried a 325i Weighted Selector Rod from Rogue and it didn't work) | | | | | 03-05-2007, 07:54 PM | #6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, Ohio Posts: 868 |
Quote: Originally Posted by Panzer_M The M3 selector rod is 195mm(too short) the Ti is 225mm.
A M3 or any other 3ser will not work(I tried a 325i Weighted Selector Rod from Rogue and it didn't work) | Thanks for the input. I think I'll clean up my old selector rod and see how it fits. Then I'll bend it and twist it to get things to clear and center where I like it. Maybe I'll do the low cost weighted mod from understeer | | | | | 03-05-2007, 11:37 PM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Central NJ Posts: 2,440 |
I bent mine with a hammer and a brick. | | | | | 03-07-2007, 12:09 AM | #8 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: maritimes Posts: 1,433 |
Quote: Originally Posted by pnosker I bent mine with a hammer and a brick. | subtle. lol  __________________ 11/97 Base  328Ti
| | | | | 03-07-2007, 01:48 AM | #9 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St. Johns, Florida Posts: 2,242 |
make your own wsr.  works | | | | | 03-07-2007, 02:45 AM | #10 | | doesn't care about you. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,925 |
Quote: Originally Posted by Panzer_M make your own wsr. works | True. I filled mine with lead. Fired up the cutting torch and melted it into the hollow rod. __________________ 
'99 Dinan M3 | | | | | 03-07-2007, 09:12 PM | #11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St. Johns, Florida Posts: 2,242 |
 Rogue Engineering WSR vs stock Ti's(longer and dirtier) you can see the differance. although if RE made thier WSR for the 318, I'd prob buy one, they are just cool. | | | | | 03-09-2007, 11:51 PM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, Ohio Posts: 868 |
So funny... My selector rod was dirty, too.
I added the 2nd bend... bead blasted, then painted the selector rod (for rust inhibitor)
Then I added 2 layers of solder to get the weight up. Covered the solder with electrical taps and she's ready to go. I'll install it in the morning.
It was originally 214mm, now it's 210mm. What do you think? | | | | | 03-10-2007, 12:51 AM | #13 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St. Johns, Florida Posts: 2,242 |
how does it shift? looks aren't important..it's all about feel. lol.
kudos, beats my middle of the night job for sure. | | | | | 03-10-2007, 12:59 AM | #14 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 |
I understand the idea behind adding the weight, but why do you feel it's needed? I like the fact that my shifter is stiff, it keeps the slop out. Quote: Originally Posted by Panzer_M how does it shift? looks aren't important..it's all about feel. lol.
kudos, beats my middle of the night job for sure. | __________________
1998 (July) 318ti, 5-spd
OEM Armrest Blaupunkt Heidelberg CD50 CD Player/Compact Drive MP3 Player Diamond Audio 5.25" rear speakers Navman ICN 530 GPS BMWALARM.COM (with comfort settings) after market alarm system Magnecor 8.5mm wires M-Z3 Shifter/Momo Knob Burlwood Dashboard Stromung Exhaust X-brace Racing Dynamics Front Strut Bar Carbonio C.A.I. 17" Rial Rims Vader Seats/Heated/Lumbar Support M-tech Steering Wheel/Front Sway Bar/Front & Rear Bumper Depos/w 6500K Angel Eyes/6000K HIDs Clear Corners M3 Mirrors UUC Light Weight Flywheel/M5 Clutch/M3 Clutch Slave E28 3.46 LSD/Mcoupe Cover/E30 Flanges & Halfshafts UUC S.S. Brake/Clutch Lines Hartge Roof Spoiler BavAuto Springs Bilstein Sport Struts/Shocks E46 M3 Rear Shock Mounts SPC Front Camber Kit Reiger Hatch Spoiler BavAuto Rear Camber Kit Dinan Stage II Software Turner Rear Sway Bar Reinforcements BMW E46 Auto dimming mirror with Clown Nose alarm Engine Compartment Light Heated Wiper Fluid Retrofit OEM Fire Extinguisher Da'lan Trailer Hitch Rear Sun Shade OEM Fog Light Retrofit H & R MZ3 Rear Sway Bar/ UUC Adjustable End Links Cruise Control Retrofit On Board Computer Retrofit M3 twistie style side skirts Carbon Fiber Hood | | | | | 03-10-2007, 01:57 AM | #15 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St. Johns, Florida Posts: 2,242 |
it's a truer throw if that makes sense | | | | | |
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