Swapped engine and from auto to 5 speed now noises ??

[jeffrn1970]

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[bazar01]

You better stop running that engine now and drop the tranny.
It sounds like you have a mismatched set of flywheel, clutch parts and fasteners. You could have used a long fastener and it is hitting the block behind the flywheel.

[jeffrn1970]

Is there any way to start the car after I drop the trans to figure out if that's where the noise is from ?


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[jeffrn1970]

Anyway to bolt the starter on without the trans or clutch attached ?


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[bazar01]

Originally Posted by jeffrn1970

Anyway to bolt the starter on without the trans or clutch attached ?


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Once you drop the tranny and bellhousing, you can spin the engine manually at the front pulley to spin the flywheel and pressure plate assembly. You should hear where it was hitting.

No way to bolt the starter without the bellhousing.

[jeffrn1970]

I have tried spinning the motor from the from crank pulley and can't hear anything hitting or rubbing .
So maybe the motor has to be spinning fast to hear it ? Does that sound reasonable ?


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[bazar01]

Did you actually do the swap or did you have it done by a shop?

If you did the auto to manual swap, you don't have any choice but to drop the tranny again if you are absolutely sure the engine was fine to begin with.

These cars are so cheap you can sell the auto and buy a manual car.
To me the auto to manual swap does not make sense.

[jeffrn1970]

Yes completed the swap myself since a guy sold me a bad auto transmission . Decided not to get screwed again and went to manual trans . Now I have too much money into car to trade or sell it


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[TobyB]

What happens when you push the clutch in?

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[jeffrn1970]

Doesn't change the sound no matter where clutch pedal
Is or whether it's in gear or not


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[TobyB]

Ick. The only thing I can add to Bazar's post is to spend the $8 on a true
mechanic's stethoscope. The one with the long rod that sticks out.

That might help you pinpoint it. But I agree- from that vid, it looks and
sounds like metal's hitting metal inside the bellhousing.

I disagree about the swap, tho- at least around here, a nice ti is 4-5k, and even
then you may end up putting tires, a clutch, or timing chain guides into it,
so if your car's nice but clutch- challenged, the 318i parts to swap it aren't very expensive.

From the Pik-n-pull, o' course!

hth
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[bazar01]

Originally Posted by TobyB

Ick.
I disagree about the swap, tho- at least around here, a nice ti is 4-5k, and even
then you may end up putting tires, a clutch, or timing chain guides into it,
so if your car's nice but clutch- challenged, the 318i parts to swap it aren't very expensive.

From the Pik-n-pull, o' course!

hth
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The auto to manual swap involves parts, labor and tools if you diy.
Parts:
1. Pedal cluster - used can be found at pull-a-part
2. DMF or LWF - I would use new ($$$$)
3. Pressure plate - I would use new ($$$)
4. Clutch disc - new ($$)
5. Slave cylinder and hoses - new
6. Master cylinder and hoses - new
7. 5-speed transmission - used (it has to be from a running donor)
8. Shifter
9. Driveshaft
10. Fasteners
11. Differential (auto diff is low speed)
I will not settle on used parts for the major parts since I do not want to do this twice if I have issues like the OP above. Dropping the transmission twice is not fun.

Labor:
How many hours will it take to remove auto tranny and drive shaft
and to install the manual parts?
How much are you going to spend on tools?

Does this make sense?

I will sell the auto and find a manual without any second thoughts.

[TobyB]

...and I like a project, so I guess it's just a matter of taste.

I do agree, though, a swap's not going to be cheap or trivial to do.
A $1k donor car, and $500+ of new parts is probably the cheapest...
but now there's a donor car to dispose of when you're done.
...of course, if you got lucky with the donor, that might be the financial winner.

But as the OP says, when the autobox expires, that's the time to do it.

IF you have a place to work on it- this would be critical.

Or just drive the donor car!

heh

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[bazar01]

I guess some of us here has too much time on our hands and would rather spend unreasonably and torture ones self to do the swap.

Much better option, one could find a nice manual car with a blown engine that is very cheap and would make a lot of sense replacing the engine.
I see a lot of TIs with overheated engines lately.

[TobyB]

Na, just an unreasonably optimistic idea of what I can get done in an afternoon!

Yes, I wholeheartedly agree- something with a 5 speed and blown engine would be easier!

My version was a car that'd been lightly hit- $250 worth of junkyard
parts and 3 afternoons, and viola- a running, driving ti for about $1500.

But again, around here finding a NICE ti is getting harder and harder.
Not E30 pricey, yet, but there just aren't a lot of nice drivers left.
They're either 'club sport I love it" for big money, or something that's
been beaten to death.

I do this because I find it enjoyable, not because it makes any sort of fiscal
sense!

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