» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | 06-08-2011, 05:04 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: South Central, MN Posts: 1,065 | Shop can't align my Ti?? I just got a call from my shop saying they can't align my car because they need special tools that they don't have. Is this for real? What kind of "special" tools does a shop that aligns cars, need?! I need some input. I've been waiting to get my car on the road since last fall. I'm getting antsy __________________ | | | 06-08-2011, 05:14 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Potomac Falls VA DMV Posts: 1,794 | That doesn't make sense. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Im guessing im the youngest member on here with a S52 power'ed Ti at 16 years old! | | | 06-08-2011, 05:46 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: South Central, MN Posts: 1,065 | Exactly my thoughts. __________________ | | | 06-08-2011, 05:47 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: MD/PA/DC Posts: 1,629 | Not much....Though it does depend on the suspension setup you have. If you are dropped too far, the just won't be able to get it within spec. __________________ No more ti. | | | 06-08-2011, 05:55 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: South Central, MN Posts: 1,065 | Quote: Originally Posted by familytruckster Not much....Though it does depend on the suspension setup you have. If you are dropped too far, the just won't be able to get it within spec. | It's factory suspension. __________________ | | | 06-08-2011, 05:59 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, Ohio Posts: 868 | The BMW spec calls for weight to be added to the seats and a full tank of gas. Most likely they don't have weights. | | | 06-08-2011, 06:17 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 183 | Couldn't somebody just sit in them? | | | 06-08-2011, 06:34 PM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, Ohio Posts: 868 | Provided they each weighed 68kg kept still and the alignment shop allowed them in the car while it was on the rack, sure. But good luck with that. The spec is 68kg in each front seat 68kg in the center of the back seat 21 kg under the hatch Full tank of gas | | | 06-08-2011, 06:39 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,464 | Special tools = open-end wrenches. If a shop doesn't have these, I would probably run away from that shop as fast as I could. Wheel toe is the only adjustment on a stock suspension. My assumption is that it is out of spec. due to damaged or defective suspension components and the only way to fix that is to determine which components are the problem and replace them. | | | 06-08-2011, 06:40 PM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,464 | Quote: Originally Posted by dave45056 Provided they each weighed 68kg kept still and the alignment shop allowed them in the car while it was on the rack, sure. But good luck with that. The spec is 68kg in each front seat 68kg in the center of the back seat 21 kg under the hatch Full tank of gas | Like this: | | | 06-08-2011, 07:06 PM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gulfport, Florida Posts: 3,208 | Run from that shop. My local average knowledge shop can align my car for cornering or straight 1/4 mile performance. They can do it all and I can watch on the machine exactly what specs are being dialed in for my setup. It's not rocket science just basic alignment unless you have been hit hard and have frame issues...\ Maybe they don't have the module for the BMW specs? | | | 06-08-2011, 07:15 PM | #12 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: South Central, MN Posts: 1,065 | I replaced my control arms and tie-rods. I just need it put into spec. I went to this shop because it's the most trusted that our family uses. I will have to look elsewhere. If they say the can't do it, they either can't or won't. Not worth my time. I'm just getting anxious. Waiting on this appointment for a week only to find this out the day OF, kinda bums me out. The guy probably looked at the schedule and saw "BMW", and freaked out. __________________ | | | 06-08-2011, 07:48 PM | #13 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: South Central, MN Posts: 1,065 | Quote: Originally Posted by zoner Like this: | I seen that a while back. He doesn't live to far from me. I should have him do it for me. He's got all the "special tools". __________________ | | | 06-08-2011, 08:18 PM | #14 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: South Central, MN Posts: 1,065 | I guess my question now is...How important is the weights on seats __________________ | | | 06-08-2011, 09:37 PM | #15 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,525 | It just approximates what your car would be like with a full load. Some car companies give the stock specs with an unloaded car, some give specs with a loaded car. Most shops will have weights to at least simulate the driver being in the car. Somebody else mentioned this, but I'll repeat it again. The only adjustment they can make is toe by adjusting the steering tie rods It is screw it one way to open the toe out, move it the other to close the toe in. No special tools or special knowledge needed for a 318ti. Now, an e39 is a different beast, and there is a whacky sized wrench that you need to make adjustments on the rear end of that car. I only know this because my alignment shop has that wrench, and it is the only car they use it on. Nothing super fancy, just think it is longer than what most shops have for wrenches in that size. | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | Similar Threads | Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post | shop rec | 318tifan | SoCal | 13 | 05-06-2009 09:00 AM | Car in the Shop. | Tyler | Engine | 8 | 03-20-2007 03:31 PM | At the Shop! | USMC318ti | Maintenance | 0 | 05-23-2006 05:57 PM | Looking for Swap Shop | 95TiClubSport | Engine Swaps | 0 | 02-01-2006 12:42 AM | New Shop | Jeff Spooner | Personal bios and Introductions | 4 | 11-19-2004 03:48 AM | |