 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | | | | | |  |  |  |  04-01-2005, 07:15 AM | #1 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 127 |  2.5L swap, 2.8L swap, or M3 swap
how much can you realistically do eahc of those swaps for the ti, I mean I figure i could find an m engine for about 4500 with a tranny if i get lucky but then comes everythign else could the 328 engine be cheaper to get or is it not worth it to do? |  |  | | 04-01-2005, 12:17 PM | #2 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
somewhere ... somehow ... i imagine steve's fingers typing ... steve?  (he has a 2.8 in his ti in case you're just thinking i'm a rambling insane person  ) __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 04-01-2005, 12:54 PM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by Adog2107 how much can you realistically do eahc of those swaps for the ti, I mean I figure i could find an m engine for about 4500 with a tranny if i get lucky but then comes everythign else could the 328 engine be cheaper to get or is it not worth it to do? | Is that the engiine on eBay? I'd say if you are going to do a swap you might as well go with the 3.2. The easiest and most bang for the buck is a DASC. I guess a lot depends on how much labor you will do yourself. The best all around way is to buy a ti with the conversion done already. __________________ ...steven
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1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i
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| | | | | 04-01-2005, 06:51 PM | #4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 127 |
the dasc is the best bet you think, i really wanna get a good amount of power out of my ti but apparently nothing helps it except the dasc | | | | | 04-02-2005, 04:04 PM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 484 |
dasc = ~160whp stock no mods $3395 not including labor
mosselman = ~150whp stock no mods( i dunno retail price)
swap m3 = ~190whp no mods (me $5500 including labor)
I dunno about you guys but i think this is the only way to go. Raima 318ti has over 300whp but i bet you he paid more than than the $5500 for his custom kit. Now an m3 swap pretty much has greatest potential when it comes to power upgrade. Look around BFC and you well see m3's being in the super car status. For all you DASC owner, how much would an afterrcooler upgrade from IAAS realy give you in power. If you have an m42 engine, you really dont have much option but stock dasc or custom turbo and piggyback computer. | | | | | 04-02-2005, 05:04 PM | #6 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
anyone have specs on the weight differences between the 4 and 6? be interesting to know how much it'll throw off the weight balance. which one you install can very much depend on what your final goal is. if you'll want more power even than a stock m3 engine will give you, i think the m3 swap is the only way to go. if the power the DASC or mosselman is all you want, then it may well not be worth the cost of doing an engine swap. to each his own __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 04-02-2005, 06:18 PM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 127 |
5500 for the m swap youd haver to find a good deal on a n engine and tranny what else would you need to do the m swap as well, all the little things and such | | | | | 04-02-2005, 08:09 PM | #8 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 484 |
goto eurodepot.com and they have m3motors from 2400+ and up. Thats complete motor including accessories. Not including transmission. | | | | | 04-02-2005, 08:22 PM | #9 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 127 |
thanks for the site i think im going to do the 328 swap, anyone on here with track times? | | | | | 04-03-2005, 07:04 AM | #10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 484 |
I believe the site admin has that for a swap. If 1996 328Ti means 2.8 then he might. If your looking for an engine why not jusy buy an m3. I know a guys here in portland that has a 98 m3 engine complete for less than 3k minus transmission. | | | | | 04-03-2005, 10:23 PM | #11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 127 |
did you use the euro depot when you bought your m engine if you did the swap i htink i read in a post before that you did | | | | | 04-04-2005, 03:14 AM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 484 |
No i didnt do the swap. A local BMW only shop here in portland perform all the work. | | | | |
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