Doing a custom Turbo with M50 Mani

[LostCause]

damn jess, abit cocky? I dont see what the problem between you to is, your both going for the same overall goal, to make your 318ti faster. I personally think that a new project (a turbo'd 318) would be sweeter then one thats done many times (a swap). But thats just me. I'm not trying to rile anything up, but damn!

[cooljess76]

Then put your money where your mouth is and do a turbo. We'll take both of our cars to the track and see which is better. I honestly don't give a crap about anyone's opinions, feelings towards me or their cars FTM. I'm simply saying that turboing an m42/m44 is a waste IN MY OPINION. So many have tried it and failed. This thread like many others IS JUST TALK. Until someone actually finishes one of these projects and produces some real hp on an engine that lasts for more than 10k miles, my opinion will not change. So go ahead and bad mouth me all you want, in the end I'll be the one with more horsepower laughing at all the kids wasting their money and time on something that they'll never put into action.

[cooljess76]

What, no comments?

A fully built and turbo'd m42/44 probably still wouldn't produce the hp that a stock s50/52 would. Even if it did, it wouldn't last because the engine is already performing beyond it's maximum capacity. Now take an s50/52, start with the same if not more hp than you'll get from an turbo'd m42/44 and you'll have plenty of room to grow if you decide to go F/I whether it be SC or turbo(which I'll add has been tried and proven on these engines). As with anything, you also have to look at the cost factor. How much time and money are you going to spend trying to make your 4 banger compete with the s50/52? Compare that to the price of an s50/52 and the amount of labor involved. Heck, even the DASC guys(the most common, reliable and basic kit for the m42/44's) are struggling to get over 200 horses. That's 3500 bucks right there, I only paid 3 grand for a complete '98 M3 donor! It starts to become more and more clear as you accept reality.

[ripdotcom]

Originally Posted by cooljess76

What, no comments? A fully built and turbo'd m42/44 probably still wouldn't produce the hp that a stock s50/52 would. Even if it did, it wouldn't last because the engine is already performing beyond it's maximum capacity. Now take an s50/52, start with the same if not more hp than you'll get from an turbo'd m42/44 and you'll have plenty of room to grow if you decide to go F/I whether it be SC or turbo(which I'll add has been tried and proven on these engines). As with anything, you also have to look at the cost factor. How much time and money are you going to spend trying to make your 4 banger compete with the s50/52? Compare that to the price of an s50/52 and the amount of labor involved. Heck, even the DASC guys(the most common, reliable and basic kit for the m42/44's) are struggling to get over 200 horses. That's 3500 bucks right there, I only paid 3 grand for a complete '98 M3 donor! It starts to become more and more clear as you accept reality.

Omg dude, you are obsessed with this, you must have a massive hard on for the S50/S52. Tell you what, do a google search and you will find tons of other people like you that are on there moms AOL account spewing all kinds of garbage about the M3 they wish they had. Sorry I havent been involved with your pissing contest, been busy swapping the suspension form a 99 M3 convertible in my 95 IC I picked up a couple days ago as well as the interior. A DASC kit is garbage compared to a turbo kit. I still cant figure out what you think is so mythodical about putting a turbo on a m42, its a pretty simple process. It just not as popular as a B18 in a CRX, I mean a S52 in a 318. I'm sorry that the only solution that you have found for your underpowered engine is a Swap from a car you cant afford to buy but there are plenty of people on the forum that would be very happy with 200Whp from a M42. not one person here has disputed that a M42 is superior to a S50/S52, The latter is obviously a better more powerful engine. However in your infinite wisdom you failed to even have the courtesy to acknoledge that this thread was dedicated to a turbo build on a m42, not the common, tried and true vanilla S52 swap that has been done a million times. How about doing something original like a budget M42 turbo and if you arent interested in it then go over to the M3 section of bimmerforums and hang out with the other narcissistic M3 owners, i am sure they will welcome you with open arms. With as many posts as you have I would have thought you are a 318 enthusiast, I was sadly mistaken. And dont get me wrong, your decision to do an engine swap has much more potential than a boosted m42/M44 but that is the point you seem to have missed completely. also, there have been tons of M42/M44 Engines that people have converted to FI, look it up. And if you think its gonna cost $3500 to make a M42 make 200Hp you must not understand 3rd grade math. Hell, a turbo, manifold, downpipe pipe, exhaust, Bov is less than a grand. You obviously missed the entire point and tried to turn it into something different, Looking at the posts in this thread shows that you are simply trying to convince everyone that it is a futile effort. I would simply hang it up man before you lose any more respect from your peers than you already have.

[cooljess76]

First of all, you don't have the slightest idea of what I can afford. If I wanted an M3, I could've had several by now. To say that I'm not a 318ti enthusiast is not only stupid, it's totally false. How many 318ti's have you owned? This is a 318ti forum you know. I've had a total of 6 e36's, three of which were Ti's. Not that I have to explain myself to you, but obviously you're mixed up. Why did you come to this forum anyway? You don't see me registering on e30 boards and clogging them up with a BS project that I gave up on. And why should I look anything up? Tell ya what, why don't you search for a turbo'd Ti and come back when you have some reliable/resourceful information. Oh wait, I'd hate to think that there's plenty of them out there because then it wouldn't be so original would it? You want different, take a look at TiFreak's car. Now that's different Heck I could take my Ti and put it on a Jeep chassis and have the world's only 4x4 Ti. It would not only be original, it would be completely pointless. I don't doubt that there's been a few turbo'd m42's, my question is how many have failed and gave up and how many have lasted more than 10k miles before their engines blew up? Here's 72 turbo threads on this forum alone. None of them were successful:
http://www.318ti.org/forum/search.php?searchid=422295

And FWIW, the last word you should ever use as a prefix for a F/I setup is the word "budget". It has failure written all over it.

Edit; apparently this isn't the only 318ti forum that the OP(a non-Ti owner) has been clogging with his BS:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...php?p=13877469
It would appear that this upstanding member has lost his way.

[1996 328ti]

Well this went downhill fast.