American Sports Cars vs .......

[weezer]

Has anyone sen pics of the new Viper SR-T10?
I don't understand the American sports car design (Corvette, Mustang, Viper, Camaro, Firebird, etc.). Ever notice the wheel well gaps? Compared to the Ferraris, Porsches, NSXs. That only tells me that they don't have very good handling performance. Is it because the American speed mentality is staright line/drag performance?

[GDB]

Yes, the Ford GT and the C6 Z06 totally suck in the corners.

[durnadupa]

My friend's dad has a Ford GT, let me tell you there is no wheel gap there. They're filled by monster wheels... what a sexy car.

[AlaskaBlue]

The Z06 has AMAZING handling and the GT40 is on par witht he ferrari 360/430. Now mustangs and f bodies have terrible handling.

[KetteringTi]

The Z06 is quite possibly one of the best performance bargains in automotive history. You could pay literally THREE TIMES the cost of a Z06 and you wouldn't be guaranteed a faster car.

And lots of supercars have some wheel gap at 0 mph but at 160 mph its gone.

[DustenT]

Originally Posted by GDB

Yes, the Ford GT and the C6 Z06 totally suck in the corners.

You don't know what you are talking about. Have you ever been to an autocross event and watched a Z06? Obviously not. The Z06 is considered a SUPER CAR and for good reason.

Feel free to ignore my comments...

[weezer]

Perhaps GM learned quite a bit before they finally produced the current Corvette. The previous models have been pure straight line cars. However, I still will not buy an American made sports car. I think their (American Automakers) slow demise tells me that their learning curve was way too slow and way too late in following Global demands.

[cieutag]

Yeah GT40's and Z06's do handle in the corners, for the money you cannot build a better car than a Z06, they list at like 65k and sell for 80ish, but you can get one at most Chevy dealerships in the US, you can't say the same for other super cars Ferrari's Lambos etc. As for the GT40 its still a deal at 160K. The american auto industry is not trying to compete with other supercars that cost 2x as much. They are filling there gap in the market.

As for f-bodies and mustangs not handling, the majority of people buying them don't care about performance. I like the rest of you do care about performance, straightline, curves, braking etc. but we are the minority in the US.

Sorry for the long post. But for the money you can't beat a Z06.

[AlaskaBlue]

What about a Saleen S7 twin turbo

[DustenT]

Originally Posted by cieutag

Yeah GT40's and Z06's do handle in the corners, for the money you cannot build a better car than a Z06, they list at like 65k and sell for 80ish, but you can get one at most Chevy dealerships in the US, you can't say the same for other super cars Ferrari's Lambos etc. As for the GT40 its still a deal at 160K. The american auto industry is not trying to compete with other supercars that cost 2x as much. They are filling there gap in the market.

As for f-bodies and mustangs not handling, the majority of people buying them don't care about performance. I like the rest of you do care about performance, straightline, curves, braking etc. but we are the minority in the US.

Sorry for the long post. But for the money you can't beat a Z06.

My friend bought a 2003 Z06 with 20k miles on it for $27k at a dealership. Beat that. Seriously, find me a Super Car for less than $30k.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by AlaskaBlue

The Z06 has AMAZING handling and the GT40 is faster than the ferrari 360CS / Enzo. Now mustangs and f bodies have terrible handling.

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And to the OP, who gave you the idiotic idea that wheel gap had anything to do with how well a car handles?

[DustenT]

Originally Posted by weezer

Perhaps GM learned quite a bit before they finally produced the current Corvette. The previous models have been pure straight line cars. However, I still will not buy an American made sports car. I think their (American Automakers) slow demise tells me that their learning curve was way too slow and way too late in following Global demands.

High end American cars are still pretty well built. It's the low end, average consumer cars that suck.

Have you ever seen the wheel well gap on a stock Ti? It's nothing to brag about.

[pdxmotorhead]

You would not believe how many cars I work on at the track with handling issues that I fix by raising the car. Just about every new racer thinks slamming the car is going to make it handle...

Dave

[KetteringTi]

Originally Posted by AlaskaBlue

What about a Saleen S7 twin turbo

Speaking of wheel gap, check out the front gap on the S7. It's silly! But add insane downforce at speed and that fender gap disappears.

[Calgary98TI]

The best deal for handling and performance is the Lotus Exige. $10k - $15k less than a corvette. Maybe not the most practical or comfortable daily driver, but very fun and fast. Amazing what you can get 190hp to do.