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Old 05-15-2007, 05:12 PM   #1
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Red face M-Tec engine..more power??

Just came across this on one of the dark side forums
Just trying to make sense of it...Anyone have anyviews? I was under the impression a m44 318ti was simply that and there are no variences in engine just appearence (ie sport with sport seats etc etc)

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Try to find an M-Tec M44 that similar to the one in mine. I have (according to the annexure in the owners manual) 125kw which is about 165HP. Mine you tho, my car weighs about 1200kgs, as its a compact, and I am sure the 318i is a bit heavier.

This is a pretty expensive mod tho, as I belive that this engine was (OMG NO, it can be!!!!!!!*sarcasm*) only released (in M-Tec form) in the UK and Aust, and not in the U.S. You would need to change the ECU as well
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So i asked him EXACTLY wot engine he had and the reply was

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Yes, I have an M44, BUT, here there were 2 varaints. The standard version and the M-Tec version. The M-Tec came with some exhaust and intake modification, and it was fuel mapped different. Its like a 'beefed up' M44. The standard power output from a M44 is 103KW, and the M-tec version is 125KW.

It has the same guts, but a higher power output.
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If the guy that wrote this uses this site too and iv ripped ya post off apologise just clearing some stuff up!!
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only thing that comes to mind is a 2.1L Build.

that's pushes the Hp to around 165-170.

but I think that irrelevent here.
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Cheers mate thats wot i was thinking.. (u up earlyor late no one else seems to be around on here at the mo!!)
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all i know is the m42 had a "banana" manifold from factory, instead of the standard cast iron type found on other stock engines.

im not sure (only because i havent checked yet if the m44 came with the same ex. manifold, which would help the engine alot
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:50 PM   #5
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m42 ex. mani



m44 ex. mani..


hmm, i guess that smoked that idea
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Try to find an M-Tec M44 that similar to the one in mine. I have (according to the annexure in the owners manual) 125kw which is about 165HP. Mine you tho, my car weighs about 1200kgs, as its a compact, and I am sure the 318i is a bit heavier.

This is a pretty expensive mod tho, as I belive that this engine was (OMG NO, it can be!!!!!!!*sarcasm*) only released (in M-Tec form) in the UK and Aust, and not in the U.S. You would need to change the ECU as well
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Yes, I have an M44, BUT, here there were 2 varaints. The standard version and the M-Tec version. The M-Tec came with some exhaust and intake modification, and it was fuel mapped different. Its like a 'beefed up' M44. The standard power output from a M44 is 103KW, and the M-tec version is 125KW.

never heard of it and i find it really hard to believe that its true...

in all firness it would want to be some intake and exhaust mod to give a m44 an extra 25bhp ? ? ?


its probibly someone tryin to make their car better than it actually is... does he have a dyno or RR to prove the standard power ? probably not...

also a 323 pushes about 170bhp so whats the point of a 323 if bmw had a 318is that did almost that ?

it would be cool if it existed and i'd like to be proven wrong but doubt it...
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I'm not saying the 2.1 came from the factory...I am saying if he thinks he's 318 has a power block M44...the PO could have stroked it...esp if it's in Europe, where the build is more abundant than in the United States.

Anyways going 2100cc isn't hard, parts wise...and if you know engine building you can build one up in a week's time or over a weekend if your really good.
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panzer dude im not saying anything about the stroker...

i know of it and all that im just refering to the magical 25bhp from a modified exhaust and intake ? ? ? and the chances that it exists ?
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panzer dude im not saying anything about the stroker...

i know of it and all that im just refering to the magical 25bhp from a modified exhaust and intake ? ? ? and the chances that it exists ?
I understand. not attacking

I just wanted to make clear to the readers(Noobs) that there isn't a Mtech M4X engine, but there are more powerful n/a fours than the stock M42 and M44.
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the guy is in Australia, states its straight fromthe factory and they did 2 options the standard 318ti and the 318ti m-tec...personally think the guys talking 5hit but wanted to check before i made my views clear incase i was wrong!! (contary to wot i tell the Mrs it happens..although very rarely!!)
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the guy is in Australia, states its straight fromthe factory and they did 2 options the standard 318ti and the 318ti m-tec...personally think the guys talking 5hit but wanted to check before i made my views clear incase i was wrong!! (contary to wot i tell the Mrs it happens..although very rarely!!)
He is full of sh!t. Tell him to post on this site.
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you can get an m43 in 1,8 liter though..

mabey he meant that compared to the m42 / 44 ?
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nope he states its an m44 engine,,just log into bimmerfest and look for title need more speed..u'll find it!!
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found it...

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=205979
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