6x9's in rear shelf

[Vazquezp]

Has anyone tried to set-up 6x9's in the rear of the TI
i was taking somethings out of the hatch when a friend suggested that
i install some 6x9's in the rear shelf. wouldn't hurt to try huh?

[Will'sBimmer]

I installed 6x9's in my rear shelf in my last Ti. When I bought the speakers they came with a trace out so you could see where and how to cut out the speaker holes. Then it was just a matter of finding a place where the speakers fit good in the shelf. But with one suggestion, if you have subs in the trunk then you may want to install some bass blockers on the bottom side of the 6x9's. I blew three speakers without bass blockers on them.

[Philly]

The 6x9's on the rear shelf is one of the first 'mods' i did...

I just used the speaker wires from the original 4" speakers on the sides, works awesome and hits well enough that i don't need 75lbs worth of subs in the hatch

Ill post a pic tommorrow, then you can see if you like it without hacking up your deck lid right away

[Panzer_M]

The 97 Ti came with them went I bought it, I don't use them in the club Sport..but if you want a pre-cut shelf let me know.

[pnosker]

Panzer, I'd be interested in your shelf.

[biker32]

i did and they look great but i havnt gotten an amp for them yet so it just kind of soldered to one of my rear speakers so its not that loud also they face straight up and dont tilt forward enough so its like it throws all the music up into the glass and not enough towards the front of the car... idk or maybe its just my power situation
-Will'sBeamer- what do you mean by bass blocker are you talking about like sound dead or dyno mat ?

[Philly]

there is a stock low wattage amp built in somewhere in the TI... on the right side IIRC... I also have a very nice headunit with a built in amp, so im sure that all benefits towards how well my 3way clarion 6x9's 'thump' ...

and they hit well enough and without distortion that they can make my rear view mirror vibrate if i want it that loud... but im usually to caught up listening to the stromung anyways

[Will'sBimmer]

Originally Posted by biker32

i did and they look great but i havnt gotten an amp for them yet so it just kind of soldered to one of my rear speakers so its not that loud also they face straight up and dont tilt forward enough so its like it throws all the music up into the glass and not enough towards the front of the car... idk or maybe its just my power situation
-Will'sBeamer- what do you mean by bass blocker are you talking about like sound dead or dyno mat ?

Yeah it is something like sound dead or Dyno mat. They are like little cups that fit over the magnet and voice coil on the bottom of the speaker. I kept blowing speakers because my subs where hitting hard and would cause the shelf to move and the speakers were being pushed from underneath by the bass waves.

[phearless12]

How did you get the 6x9's to fit? did they just go right in?

[adamud]

what happened to the pictures rwd_king?

[M3_KILL3R]

aight i want to add 6x9's on the rear shelf but i have a quick question how did you guys hack away at the shelf? will a normal knife cut it?

[losichu]

STOP!!!
I'm going to be unpopular, but I wouldn't do it. It isn't worth tearing holes in your rear deck for "subpar" performance from 6x9s. Here are my reasons:

1. 6x9s require some type of enclosure to get the proper sound production out of them, which plopping them in a rear deck of a ti will not offer. Placing the 6x9s in 6x9 boxes and using velcro to attach them to the deck will be much better soundwise.

2. Once you mount 6x9s into your rear deck, you have destroyed a back deck.

3. When you need to take off the rear deck, you will need to either pull out the speakers or disconnect the wires. Once you disconnect the wires, you run the chance of blowing whatever is powering the speakers if they were to accidentally touch metal or get pinched in the seat area.

I would discourage anyone from partaking in mounting 6x9s to the rear deck. If you like the high powered tweeters that 6x9s come with, buy a set of tweeters and mount them in the stock location. If you want good sound reproduction from 6x9s, put them in an enclosure and mount them in a safe location. If you want bass, use a sub. Those complaining about weight, try a 10" alpine type r or something that doesn't have a gaynormous magnet. Keep the sub enclosure under 1.5 cu ft and give the little sub lots of juice (1000 watts or so), and you will be quite impressed.

[Philly]

sorry adamund, i never even thought twice about it after i wrote that... still no pics... sorry.

m3_kill3r... i used templates that came with the 6x9's and a jig-saw to cut mine out, those decklids are very strong, using anything other than a powertool would probably be a PITA... anyone who does this mod and wants it to look good, get nice 6x9's with a speaker cover/grill... that way you don't have to be quite as "neat" with the cut cause it will be hidden for the most part.

and losichu, have you tried the 6x9's in the rear deck? or are you just saying why YOU don't like the idea?

1) they are, in fact, in a 'type' of enclosure... just a larger one, the hatch, which is what the lid covers... no?
ive owned and been in countless vechiles with stock and aftermarket 6x9's.. and my sound system (mainly because of those very 6x9's) sounds better and hits nicer than most, if not all, the cars ive been in that arn't running subs...
as long as you don't cheap out an get $30-40 6x9's.. its a big improvement 'soundwise' from stock... get 3way or 5way 6x9's and you wouldn't feel it as though they are of 'subpar' performance.

2) doesn't that go without saying? but you've only really ruined it if you take the speakers back out...

3) use tape to splice the wires, untape to remove, tape again to re-connect... its a 60 second process...
and the only way you run the risk of blowing anything is if you remove the deck while there is power running to the speakers, but anyone who is dumb enough to connect and disconnect live wires deserves to have something blow up anyways.

thats my $.02

[losichu]

Have I tried 6x9s in my back deck? Of course not, but I have heard them in other persons cars with holes cut out in the deck, and I'm not that impressed.

If you consider the back of a ti with the cover on it an enclosure, then I can't help you. That back deck is a cover, it does not seal anything. The sound of 6x9s is subject to opinion, and your opinion is your opinion. I can assure you that a pair of 6x9s sitting in a hatch cover would not be louder, crisper, or more accurate than a sub powered correctly in a proper enclosure.

I can only challenge you to do one thing. With your 6x9s installed in your back deck, find a way to enclose the bottom of the speaker so that its sealed. Build a fiberglass enclosure underneath the 6x9s and I can guarantee that those 6x9s will sound much nicer. I have nothing against 6x9s, but your robbing yourself of performance when they are just sitting there in a back deck.

And I don't know who's car you have been listening to, but if your 6x9s beat out a sub in the same kind of car, then either you have the best 6x9s ever built or that person doesn't know how to install subs.

The fact that tape is what you would use to cover up spliced wires is disturbing in and of itself. Use proper connectors that have sleeves on them to prevent a short circuit while they are disconnected or in use. Exposed wiring is never a good idea, and an exposed speaker can easily be poked by something that is in the trunk.

These are my $0.02

[marleymon]

Originally Posted by losichu

STOP!!!
I'm going to be unpopular, but I wouldn't do it. It isn't worth tearing holes in your rear deck for "subpar" performance from 6x9s. Here are my reasons:

1. 6x9s require some type of enclosure to get the proper sound production out of them, which plopping them in a rear deck of a ti will not offer. Placing the 6x9s in 6x9 boxes and using velcro to attach them to the deck will be much better soundwise. ----now that's pretty funny....mine sound great and thump a little with the hatch closed...does that make it a box?

2. Once you mount 6x9s into your rear deck, you have destroyed a back deck. mmk

3. When you need to take off the rear deck, you will need to either pull out the speakers or disconnect the wires. Once you disconnect the wires, you run the chance of blowing whatever is powering the speakers if they were to accidentally touch metal or get pinched in the seat area. **anyone crafty or with a home depot nearby can fugure out how to get around this...

I would discourage anyone from partaking in mounting 6x9s to the rear deck. If you like the high powered tweeters that 6x9s come with, buy a set of tweeters and mount them in the stock location. If you want good sound reproduction from 6x9s, put them in an enclosure and mount them in a safe location. If you want bass, use a sub. Those complaining about weight, try a 10" alpine type r or something that doesn't have a gaynormous magnet. Keep the sub enclosure under 1.5 cu ft and give the little sub lots of juice (1000 watts or so), and you will be quite impressed.

I have an 8" powered baZooka under these which is plenty of thump for Josh...


I know... "it looks like ass"....