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Old 02-07-2006, 06:15 PM   #1
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I was wondering if all Ti's have lug nuts... I had an argument with my mechanic and he said it's the first time he's seen lug nuts on a bimmer...on my car that is...
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I've never ever seen lug nuts on a bimmer, and I've had 9 different ones.
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Old 02-07-2006, 06:32 PM   #3
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I've never ever seen lug nuts on a bimmer, and I've had 9 different ones.
oops, my new ti brings that up to 10 :-) I can't keep up with myself
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I have studs on my wheels made by Road Race Technologies.
They make swapping wheels a little quicker.

But stock I don't recall ever seeing lug nuts.
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nope BMW doesn't use them.
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maybe he had some after market adapters for his wheels or something.
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I have studs on my wheels made by Road Race Technologies.
They make swapping wheels a little quicker.

But stock I don't recall ever seeing lug nuts.
The studs and lug nuts don't look like an aftermarket setup,.. I remember tring the socket from the tool kit in the trunk and it did not fit on the nuts.... maybe it was put in after.... or maybe it was something sepcial for us Canadians...
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nope BMW doesn't use them.
If I am not mistaken... my car is a BMW and I do have lug nuts....
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I am from Canada as well, my 98ti has bolts, so did all the VW GTI's that I have had (3 GTI's).
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If I am not mistaken... my car is a BMW and I do have lug nuts....
Then the previous owner installed studs. The lug nuts come in different sizes
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How could I tell if they are aftermarket??
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i work in a tire shop, so i deal with this all the time... Audi, VW and BMW are what we in the shop call "hated"...Now i love mine, but as for working with them, they suck, 95%of the cars i listed above are lug bolts. the only reason they would be different and use nuts that go on the studs attached to the brake rotor, is if it is an after market part. but other than that, all bolts. The bolts create a few problems, the rims take longer to put back on, which isnt really that big of a deal, just annoying...safer though...second, they create a rust problem between the rim and the rotor...so everynow and then, get a wire brush, and clean that up.
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Y'all are whacked.

First, it is possible to say BMW hasn't used lug nuts since 1976 (1977 in Europe if you count the 1502). It is not correct to say BMW has never used nuts.

Second, no E36/5 ever left the factory with studs and nuts. They all had bolts. Any 318ti with nuts and studs had them added by a previous owner.

Third, they don't attach to the brake rotor but to the hub. The rotor is on the hub, too. There's no difference in rust problems with studs versus bolts since most wheels are hub-centric anyway and the dissimilar metals (cast steel hubs and alloy wheels) should be coated with never-sieze regardless. If it takes you longer to put a wheel on with bolts as opposed to studs, you're either too slow or you need to use the pin (part no. 71111093774) in every BMW tool kit designed to both help turn the spark-plug wrench and also to fit in the hub to hold the wheel while you install the lug bolts.
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Y'all are whacked.

First, it is possible to say BMW hasn't used lug nuts since 1976 (1977 in Europe if you count the 1502). It is not correct to say BMW has never used nuts.

Second, no E36/5 ever left the factory with studs and nuts. They all had bolts. Any 318ti with nuts and studs had them added by a previous owner.

Third, they don't attach to the brake rotor but to the hub. The rotor is on the hub, too. There's no difference in rust problems with studs versus bolts since most wheels are hub-centric anyway and the dissimilar metals (cast steel hubs and alloy wheels) should be coated with never-sieze regardless. If it takes you longer to put a wheel on with bolts as opposed to studs, you're either too slow or you need to use the pin (part no. 71111093774) in every BMW tool kit designed to both help turn the spark-plug wrench and also to fit in the hub to hold the wheel while you install the lug bolts.
Um, no, there is rust problems, and i think i said pretty much what you did. but i gues we're all whack and you know everything
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second, they create a rust problem between the rim and the rotor...so everynow and then, get a wire brush, and clean that up.
I don't think you meant rotor. I've had my steel wheels stick to the hub which has nothing to do with studs or bolts. Studs make changing wheels easier but scratch the wheels. Before I installed studs I always used the tire hanger.

And long does your BMW history go?
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