318ti.org forum

Go Back   318ti.org forum > Technical, Maintenance and Modifications > Engine

Notices

Engine Tuneups, chips, wires, spark plugs.

.
» Recent Threads
1999 M-Sport For Sale
12-31-2023 05:10 PM
Last post by Coop540iT
03-23-2024 06:39 PM
1 Replies, 98,692 Views
Once again 318ti owner...
03-20-2024 12:39 PM
Last post by two30grain
03-22-2024 02:04 PM
1 Replies, 61,545 Views
What brakes do I...
03-20-2024 03:27 PM
Last post by huirtera
03-20-2024 03:27 PM
0 Replies, 58,926 Views
Reply Share/Bookmark
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-12-2015, 09:12 AM   #1
Black318ti1009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Temecula
Posts: 7
iTrader: (0)
Exclamation Help!!! TIMING!!!

Recently the lower timing chain guide snapped! I got a mechanic to fix it but he removed the timing chain with out marking them So I want to know how can I get the car time back to normal?

Someone give me some advice please
Black318ti1009 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2015, 06:07 PM   #2
xxxJohnBoyxxx
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gulfport, Florida
Posts: 3,208
iTrader: (1)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black318ti1009 View Post
Recently the lower timing chain guide snapped! I got a mechanic to fix it but he removed the timing chain with out marking them So I want to know how can I get the car time back to normal?

Someone give me some advice please
What year M42 or M44? Should be able to TDC number 1 piston then allign the two camshaft end blocks. There is a tool to lock the cams in place but I've never used it, I use a straight edge or dial indicator (I sold that dial indicator timing kit to a member maybe he will rent it out if you need it)

After you have the cams alligned you are all set to put it back together. Remember to always turn the motor over in a clockwise rotation so there is no chain slack.

Hope this helps, John S
xxxJohnBoyxxx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2015, 06:31 PM   #3
Black318ti1009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Temecula
Posts: 7
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxxJohnBoyxxx View Post
What year M42 or M44? Should be able to TDC number 1 piston then allign the two camshaft end blocks. There is a tool to lock the cams in place but I've never used it, I use a straight edge or dial indicator (I sold that dial indicator timing kit to a member maybe he will rent it out if you need it)

After you have the cams alligned you are all set to put it back together. Remember to always turn the motor over in a clockwise rotation so there is no chain slack.

Hope this helps, John S
Its a M44 engine. So I just need to alligned the cams? It doesnt matter how the timing chain goes back on

Thanks for helping me out I appreciate it
Black318ti1009 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2015, 07:19 PM   #4
xxxJohnBoyxxx
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gulfport, Florida
Posts: 3,208
iTrader: (1)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black318ti1009 View Post
Its a M44 engine. So I just need to alligned the cams? It doesnt matter how the timing chain goes back on

Thanks for helping me out I appreciate it

Chain doesn't care where it is just TDC #1 piston and then allign the blocks on the back of the cams and tighten down the cam nuts. Ensure you always crank in a clockwise rotation so there is no chain slack and the chain tentioner is happy.

John S
xxxJohnBoyxxx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2015, 08:53 PM   #5
Black318ti1009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Temecula
Posts: 7
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxxJohnBoyxxx View Post
Chain doesn't care where it is just TDC #1 piston and then allign the blocks on the back of the cams and tighten down the cam nuts. Ensure you always crank in a clockwise rotation so there is no chain slack and the chain tentioner is happy.

John S
Awesome! Then I'm going to get the timing tool so I can have the car back on the road!! I thought my car was screwed since the timing chain was removed with out getting marked
Black318ti1009 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2015, 02:38 PM   #6
camcraft
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 13
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black318ti1009 View Post
Recently the lower timing chain guide snapped! I got a mechanic to fix it but he removed the timing chain with out marking them So I want to know how can I get the car time back to normal?

Someone give me some advice please
ok here is the quick answer for setting timing on any of these 1.9l engines
first locate cylinder #1 (its the one in the front of the engine & usually holds similar stroke position to cyl #4 easy to mix them up) pull your spark plug in that cylinder and put a dowel or long screwdriver in the hole use this as a guide to set the stroke position of the crank to top of the cylinder stroke (as far up as it will go in the crank rotation) then disconnect your cam gears at the back of the cams are a pair of dot holes align them straight up on both sides (someone said a level i have the tool but have done it by brail method and line of sight, dont mess this one up or you bend your valves) once aligned reattach your cam gears and timing chain your timing is set !
camcraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2015, 06:54 PM   #7
Black318ti1009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Temecula
Posts: 7
iTrader: (0)
Default

Thanks for the info!
One more question I bought the locking tool for the cams but doesn't fit. To turn the camshaft do I just use an open head wrench to turn them so they can fit into the locking tool?
Black318ti1009 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2015, 08:14 AM   #8
Black318ti1009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Temecula
Posts: 7
iTrader: (0)
Default

bump
Black318ti1009 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2015, 10:31 PM   #9
xxxJohnBoyxxx
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gulfport, Florida
Posts: 3,208
iTrader: (1)
Default

Cams locking nuts lose use a open end to allign cam allignment blocks on back of cam into tool. You should only need a tiny bump either way to allign the cams in the tool. If it is way off you got another issue and you need to stop and figure it out before you bend a valve.

John S
xxxJohnBoyxxx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2015, 07:59 AM   #10
Black318ti1009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Temecula
Posts: 7
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxxJohnBoyxxx View Post
Cams locking nuts lose use a open end to allign cam allignment blocks on back of cam into tool. You should only need a tiny bump either way to allign the cams in the tool. If it is way off you got another issue and you need to stop and figure it out before you bend a valve.

John S
Okay thanks! So I have the cams aligned and the engine at TDC and you said it doesn't matter how the timing chain goes on right?

Because I just put the timing chain back on. So am I ready to fire up my engine?
Black318ti1009 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2015, 07:50 AM   #11
Black318ti1009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Temecula
Posts: 7
iTrader: (0)
Default

Bump
Black318ti1009 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2015, 08:50 PM   #12
xxxJohnBoyxxx
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gulfport, Florida
Posts: 3,208
iTrader: (1)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black318ti1009 View Post
Okay thanks! So I have the cams aligned and the engine at TDC and you said it doesn't matter how the timing chain goes on right?

Because I just put the timing chain back on. So am I ready to fire up my engine?
At this point your cams should be degreed to factory stock setting. Put it all back together and it should run fine.
xxxJohnBoyxxx is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DIY: Timing Case Cover Gaskets and Chain Guides CirrusSR22 Knowledge Base 26 08-16-2020 03:23 PM
Timing chain and radiator weezer Lounge 2 05-10-2013 06:46 AM
Changing the Timing Chain Questions Polish12 Maintenance 4 03-29-2010 02:52 AM
M42: Accidently removed Timing Chain Tensioner! montrealblue7 Engine 9 06-21-2008 02:49 AM
Problem after changing the timing chain tensioner... TestaRossa Engine 3 06-19-2008 01:12 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:21 PM.


.
Powered by site supporters
vBulletin Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, 318ti.org
© vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2
[page compression: 104.16 k/123.49 k (15.66%)]

318ti.org does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information or products discussed.