» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | 1999 M3 Swap 09-07-2023 10:10 PM 05-02-2024 08:18 PM 6 Replies, 401,259 Views | | | | | | 11-07-2008, 08:05 AM | #376 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | damn thread jackers, better be glad im too drunk to care. Everything should come out pretty nice once done, hopefully the rep will come out perfectly. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 11-07-2008, 12:35 PM | #377 | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 | It could be a little rough since you're going to be molding it to the car anyway. There's going to be a lot of sanding. Basically, you're going to need to make the lip, attach it to the car and then fill the seams with bondo or fiberglass. Then sand it nice and smooth so it looks like it's part of the hatch. BTW, It's 3:30 in the morning and I'm not exactly sober either __________________ 4 MORE YEARS BABY!!! | | | 11-07-2008, 03:19 PM | #378 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | Heh, hooray for alcohol.lol So you think molding it would be a good idea though? __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 11-07-2008, 03:24 PM | #379 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 3,877 | Molding parts is always a good idea. __________________ ~Dave~ 98 328ti Morea Grun slicktop 11 128i space gray slicktop 13 JGC WK2 Deep Cherry Search | RealOEM | | | 11-07-2008, 08:48 PM | #380 | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 | Quote: Originally Posted by Bluebimma Heh, hooray for alcohol.lol So you think molding it would be a good idea though? | As long as you're sure that you want it on there permanently. I mean, you could get it off later, but you'll have to destroy your paintjob to get it off. I think it'll look awesome though and your car will be one of a kind(as if it isn't already). When you make the replication, It's okay if it doesn't come out absolutely perfect as you'll probably be using a lot of filler anyway whether it be fiberglass or bondo. Just make sure that you guys use a good mold releasing agent or cover the original spoiler with some sort of protective film to avoid unwanted bonding or melting of the plastic. Fiberglass resin and bondo both have a chemical reaction which causes them to heat up and bond to whatever they're applied to. If that stuff gets on the spoiler, it may damage it and it would be a pain in the butt to get off. I was thinking about making a mold out of something like plaster of paris. Build yourself a rectangular frame out of wood, fill it with plaster and lay the spoiler in it half or 3/4 of the way. Don't allow the spoiler to submerge or you won't be able to get it out. Once the plaster hardens, build another rectangular frame, fill it with plaster and then take the hardened piece with the spoiler sticking halfway out of it and flip it upside down on top of the other half of the mold. Once it's completely hardened, give it a couple taps with the hammer and the two pieces should come apart. Remove the spoiler and you should have a nice two piece mold. At this point, you could fill any air pockets or imperfections in the mold, perhaps sand any excess plaster run off. Once you have a nice smooth mold to work with, drill 3 or 4 holes through the bottom half of the mold. Take the top half of the mold and fill it with expansion foam(comes in an aerosol can and it's sand able). Make sure you give it a few good taps or drop it on the ground a couple times as it's settling to shake all of the air pockets out. Then take the bottom half of the mold with the holes drilled through it, place it on top of the top half that's already filled with foam. Clamp or secure the two pieces together, make sure they're positioned in the same direction. Through the holes in the mold, slowly spray expansion foam into it from each hole, shaking and tapping it often to get the foam to completely fill the mold. Allow a few minutes for the foam to cure, then separate the two halves and carefully remove your foam spoiler. Give it a couple layers of fiberglass, sand it smooth and you're on your way to the car. Then you could attach it to the car, use fiberglass or bondo to mold it onto the actual hatch. If you want to, you could also do what Dustin was saying and make it out of resin. This would be a little more durable. Basically use the same two piece plaster mold and fill it with resin through the holes. This would be easier to reduce air pockets and fill completely as the foam typically clogs up and doesn't flow easily. It'll be a little messy and harder to sand, but in the end it will give better results. Anyway, that's just my idea. Whichever way you guys do it, just try not to mess the spoiler up or get resin or anything that will melt it on it. __________________ 4 MORE YEARS BABY!!! | | | 11-09-2008, 04:19 PM | #381 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | Still working out the details but im sure itll get done without any problems. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 11-11-2008, 06:52 PM | #382 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | Did a full detail yesterday and grabbed a few pics and this is the one i like the best. I also did some video footage from last night before i had my exhaust done. Took a couple shots today after i had it welded together. The sound is amazing. Videos will be up soon. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 11-11-2008, 10:34 PM | #383 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | I also raced my buddies EG with a b16 in it, crushed him pretty bad. No stock m44 is gonna be able to hit that. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 11-11-2008, 10:51 PM | #384 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 237 | Quote: Originally Posted by Bluebimma I also raced my buddies EG with a b16 in it, crushed him pretty bad. No stock m44 is gonna be able to hit that. | Dang man no stock M44 for sure. Do you know which B16 motor it was? I'm not sure but aren't there a few versions of the B16 out there depending on year and car? | | | 11-11-2008, 10:54 PM | #385 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | I dont know which one he used, but i know they rebuilt it before they put it in there. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 11-11-2008, 11:40 PM | #386 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 523 | Nice, I thought you were planning on dropping in an S52? Your ti is awesome either way though. __________________ | | | 11-12-2008, 03:28 AM | #387 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 | you go through all the effort of doing a detail and your favorite pic is one that makes the car hard to see? and you're missing the passenger fender trim lol, I have no idea what an "EG" or "B16" is, I'm guessing it's the designation of a car and engine but that's all I can figure out | | | 11-12-2008, 04:58 AM | #388 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | Quote: Originally Posted by 1rstbmw! Nice, I thought you were planning on dropping in an S52? Your ti is awesome either way though. | Lots of things went wrong and i decided to cancel the plan. I had a lower mileage one goin for 2200shipped with everything i needed too. O well, gotta move on. Quote: Originally Posted by tiFreak you go through all the effort of doing a detail and your favorite pic is one that makes the car hard to see? and you're missing the passenger fender trim lol, I have no idea what an "EG" or "B16" is, I'm guessing it's the designation of a car and engine but that's all I can figure out | Heh, i really liked the pic and didnt feel like driving all over the city until i fixed my headlights. The fender moulding came off while driving home from michigan in the am, i didnt notice until the next morning. EG is an early 90s honda civic body that weighs in at about 2300 and the B16 has various specs due to which car it came from. This particular one had been rebuilt, cai, and exhaust. B16A 1595 168@7800 116@7300 10.4:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 2 1996-2000 Civic VTi B16A 1595 158@7600 112@7000 10.2:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 0 1990-1993 Integra XSi/RSi (JDM) B16A SiR 1595 158@7600 111@7000 10.4:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 0 1991 CRX SiR (JDM- rare 10.4:1 B16A SiR 1595 160@7600 111@7000 10.4:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 0 1990-1991 Civic SiR (JDM) B16A SiR II 1595 170@7600 116@7000 10.4:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 1 1992-1995 Civic SiR II (JDM) /del S B16A2 1595 160@7600 111@7000 10.2:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 2 1999-2000 Civic Si B16A3 1595 160@7600 111@7000 10.4:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 1 1994-1995 Del Sol B16B 1595 185@8200 118@7500 10.8:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 2 1997-2001 Civic Type R (JDM) __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 11-13-2008, 07:26 PM | #389 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 130 | I'm slooooowly coming to the conclusion that I need a bigger motor in the Ti. I figure I'll rock it as is until there's not much left, then I'll be giving you a call for help. | | | 11-13-2008, 08:02 PM | #390 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | Told you to come test drive the ti man. Ill have new brakes, tranny, and engine mounts soon since the m3 brakes are sold. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |