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Old 06-25-2014, 07:48 AM   #1
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OK Cali community,

I should have a new motor delivered Friday for my 98 Cali top from Germany. Before I install it, do I need to confirm top position or motor position ? I suspect yes, like with sunroof motor replacements, so any feedback from folks who have recently done this? Also, I read some folks further lubricated their new motors. How'd that turn out over time?

I will continue to look for a replacement gear for my existing motor to keep as a spare. If anyone has a motor they no longer need, please drop me a PM.

I look forward to using the top on a more frequent basis. Thanks!
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I cannot say for sure but after dissassembling the motor and gears I would say the design does not rely on a position mechanism like the other sunroofs. The gears in the cali top motor have a tension mechanism instead. This is also the reason they are more prone to gear failure IMHO.

Somewhere I found a factory manual posted for servicing the assembly that may detail a process. I will see if I can post it or a link.

What is the current cost of a new motor?

Surely with the new 3D printing technology there should be a way to reproduce gears at a reasonable cost. Even if the 3D printed parts are not as durable, if they are easily reproduced they could just be replaced more frequently.
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Thanks much! Shipped with tax and the threaded emergency tool was $403 from getBMWparts.com. Lowest price I could find.

I will seek to repair my existing motor as a spare or for parts when the new one breaks.
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Here are the service files for the roof:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B82...it?usp=sharing
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Sweet! Thanks very much! I actually printed and have these in my workshop reference material now. I have to troubleshoot why the drivers side of the roof sometimes does not retract.


I have a spare Cali roof I will renew and ensure proper operation and swap out this failing one for repair/ renewal. I lucked out and found a spare 98 roof for my 98 car.


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