318ti.org forum

Go Back   318ti.org forum > Technical, Maintenance and Modifications > Exterior

Notices

Exterior From spoilers, lights to body kits and window problems.

.
» Recent Threads
1999 M-Sport For Sale
12-31-2023 05:10 PM
Last post by Coop540iT
03-23-2024 06:39 PM
1 Replies, 98,692 Views
Once again 318ti owner...
03-20-2024 12:39 PM
Last post by two30grain
03-22-2024 02:04 PM
1 Replies, 61,545 Views
What brakes do I...
03-20-2024 03:27 PM
Last post by huirtera
03-20-2024 03:27 PM
0 Replies, 58,926 Views
Reply Share/Bookmark
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-30-2010, 12:40 AM   #1
Wraythe
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: The SLC
Posts: 34
iTrader: (0)
Lightbulb 318ti - NA Production Numbers

As promised from a previous forum thread, the following data came from "Standard Catalog of Imported Cars 1946-2002, 2nd Edition":

1995 - 7238
1996 - 7238
1997 - 4622
1988 - 3735
1999 - 656

I also have how many models (Base, Active, Sport and Clubsport) were exported to NA by model year. This information will be updated to this thread shorty.

Enjoy
Wraythe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2010, 12:49 AM   #2
Ji Money
Senior Member
 
Ji Money's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Orange County, NY
Posts: 1,067
iTrader: (0)
Default

Cheers! I need to get some beers for myself.
__________________

McLaren F1 - BMW M Power S70/2
Ji Money is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2010, 10:41 PM   #3
tiFreak
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: asdfasdf
Posts: 10,002
Vehicles
iTrader: (8)
Default

cool stuff, looks like the ti wasn't popular, doesn't look like there was even 25,000 imported
tiFreak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2010, 06:10 PM   #4
30yrMbr
Senior Member
 
30yrMbr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Laguna Beach
Posts: 357
Vehicles
iTrader: (3)
Default NA Prod Numbers.

Looking for the numbers for each model of each year. Can you post those numbers too?

Thanks
__________________
1996 ///M 318ti
Alaska Blue, M-Technic, Chip, Stromung catback, 17" BMW Ltw Wheels, B&M SSK, H&R Springs/Bilsteins, StopTech Brake Lines;

http://www.318ti.org/gallery/data/54...27_clipped.jpg
30yrMbr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 01:24 AM   #5
wolferj-RIP
Senior Member
 
wolferj-RIP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: norcal - 94590
Posts: 3,186
iTrader: (16)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wraythe View Post
This information will be updated to this thread shorty.

Enjoy
Who you callin' "shorty"?





j/k

Do post up the breakdown of models per year... It's been a common question, especially regarding 95's (clubsports), and would solve a lot of arguements...
__________________
James 95 active w/leather interior and sport interior conversion, Vaders, full M-Tech exterior conversion. Now m50 swapped* Eibach sway bars, D2 Coilovers, Depo's w/AE's, blacked-out sides and grills, LeatherZ console and door armrests, 1 series starter button mod, and custom finished Style 5's <--- in this color! Named "Roddy": *M50 6 cyl. swap with fan delete, S50 cams and chip, AFE stage 2 intake, M3 clutch and 11.5 lb Fidanza flywheel, 3.15LSD, battery relocated to rear and complete custom exhaust. Sweet! 97 318ti sport, Alaska Blue, Contours, coilovers, Dove Vaders and custom black/grey interior named "Max" 95 318ti Active in Cosmos, S50 swap in progress... named "Pit" SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW!
wolferj-RIP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2010, 08:13 PM   #6
amancuso
Senior Member
 
amancuso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Burlington, NJ
Posts: 560
iTrader: (0)
Default

That's some good info.... I'm sure the majority are 95 and 96 base models. Though I'm not sure because 9 out of 10 ti's I see have a sunroof, whereas mine doesn't have one.
__________________
1996 318ti - 2000 Z3 2.3 - 2012 MINI Cooper Hatchback
amancuso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2010, 12:25 AM   #7
tiFreak
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: asdfasdf
Posts: 10,002
Vehicles
iTrader: (8)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by amancuso View Post
That's some good info.... I'm sure the majority are 95 and 96 base models. Though I'm not sure because 9 out of 10 ti's I see have a sunroof, whereas mine doesn't have one.
I think the sunroof was standard, the sunroof delete was the option, might be why most of them have a sunroof
tiFreak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2010, 02:40 AM   #8
1996 328ti
Senior Member
 
1996 328ti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 9,356
Vehicles
iTrader: (1)
Default

When dealers order cars they always order a sunroof.
__________________
...steven
BMW CCA #146825
1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i
www.bmwcca.org
1996 328ti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2010, 03:30 AM   #9
19742002tii
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Greenville,SC
Posts: 18
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tiFreak View Post
cool stuff, looks like the ti wasn't popular, doesn't look like there was even 25,000 imported
It was billed as a sub $20k BMW. Seems BMW customers were not of the mind to have cheap and BMW apply to their car. BMW learned their lesson and produced the high end 135. Too bad, this model killed 4 cylinders in the US. (I love mine!)
19742002tii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2010, 03:41 AM   #10
1996 328ti
Senior Member
 
1996 328ti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 9,356
Vehicles
iTrader: (1)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 19742002tii View Post
It was billed as a sub $20k BMW. Seems BMW customers were not of the mind to have cheap and BMW apply to their car. BMW learned their lesson and produced the high end 135. Too bad, this model killed 4 cylinders in the US. (I love mine!)
BMW's margin was very little on the ti.
BMW NA also say Americans don't like hatchbacks.
Guess they don't count the Mini, or Z Coupes for that matter.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Marx View Post
The 318ti "failure" is often mentioned when discussing why the 1 Series has not yet reached the U.S. Why not just drop the facts in this quote on them? It's from the March Roundel:

Quote:
Phil Marx replies: Some facts might help put these arguments in perspective. For calendar year 2005, BMW NA sold 3,660 "sport wagons," including both new and old 3 Series, 5 Series, and all-wheel-drive versions of these models, making total wagon sales less than 2% of total BMW car sales of 197,833. By comparison, BMW NA sold 7,238 318ti Compacts in 1996---nearly 7% of 105,761 total sales. 318ti sales slipped to less than 4,000 in 1998, the last full year of sales for this model, but still accounted for 3% of total U.S. BMW car sales. How do you measure success?
__________________
...steven
BMW CCA #146825
1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i
www.bmwcca.org
1996 328ti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2010, 04:19 AM   #11
30yrMbr
Senior Member
 
30yrMbr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Laguna Beach
Posts: 357
Vehicles
iTrader: (3)
Default BMW & Hatchbacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1996 328ti View Post
BMW's margin was very little on the ti.
BMW NA also say Americans don't like hatchbacks.
Guess they don't count the Mini, or Z Coupes for that matter.
Not to beat a dead horse, but the number of X's sold in the US is missing and they are ALL hatchbacks. So are nearly all (if not all) SUV's sold in this or any other country. Don't they count as hatchbacks?

None the less, I love both of my hatchbacks, would buy another if BMW could ever "get over it" and "Move on".

Z3 Coupe and Ti Owner.

What are the numbers on the different (base, active, sport) packages for each of the years?

Thanks in Advance (TIA).
__________________
1996 ///M 318ti
Alaska Blue, M-Technic, Chip, Stromung catback, 17" BMW Ltw Wheels, B&M SSK, H&R Springs/Bilsteins, StopTech Brake Lines;

http://www.318ti.org/gallery/data/54...27_clipped.jpg
30yrMbr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2010, 02:15 PM   #12
J!m
Moderator
 
J!m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT!
Posts: 3,156
Vehicles
iTrader: (1)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1996 328ti View Post
When dealers order cars they always order a sunroof.
In my case, the deletion of the sunroof when I ordered my car caused $500.00 of my deposit to be "non-refundable" because the dealer "does not order BMWs without sun roofs".

The sun roof was the option; standard is without either the sun roof or the California top.

I am happy to say my sun-roof 'delete' has not leaked a drop of water since 1998.
__________________
"Speed's just a question of money. How fast you 'wanna go?"

Order Swap Manuals Here => http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12912

WolferJ- gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
J!m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2010, 02:57 PM   #13
John Firestone
Senior Member
 
John Firestone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Bremerhaven, Germany
Posts: 977
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1996 328ti View Post
BMW's margin was very little on the ti. BMW NA also say Americans don't like hatchbacks. Guess they don't count the Mini, or Z Coupes for that matter.
A good marketer could make a jackass seem like a quarterhorse, or turn a hatchback into a coupe, or vice-versa, if you follow their lead and don't consider other possibilities. It's all in the presentation.

In their sales force guides, BMWNA called the 318ti a 3-door coupe.

Last edited by John Firestone; 08-05-2010 at 03:04 PM.
John Firestone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2010, 04:59 PM   #14
J!m
Moderator
 
J!m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT!
Posts: 3,156
Vehicles
iTrader: (1)
Default

The ti was not really 'marketed' at all. No TV commercials showing the ti etc. The magazines didn't really push it either. No ti at the NY Auto show (that I am aware of) for any of the available years. So, it is no surprise sales dwindled. I think it started 'strong' because of the 'exclusive' ClubSport for BMWCCA members, which caused a bit of a stir in 1995. Since it was not crammed down our throats, we conveniently forgot about the model, and BMW blamed 'us' (the consumers) for not buying it. Considering the complete LACK of marketing, I think it sold reasonably well.

I learned about it when I was shopping for a new E36 BMW and liked the M3. One of the sales people suggested looking at the ti (which I did) due to my budget (or, more accurately, lack of one) and the rest is history...

I still want a 95 M3 CSL... A straight-up swap might get me to part with my ti... Maybe...
__________________
"Speed's just a question of money. How fast you 'wanna go?"

Order Swap Manuals Here => http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12912

WolferJ- gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
J!m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2010, 05:20 PM   #15
John Firestone
Senior Member
 
John Firestone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Bremerhaven, Germany
Posts: 977
iTrader: (0)
Default

The E36 compact sold extremely well in Europe until other cars entered the niche it had established. The last few years were disappointing.

According to what they gave to their sales troops after its first year, BMWNA was expecting to sell 5000 cars a year, making at least the first couple years of the U.S. 318ti a success. But then what happened? My impression, is they eventually realized they really didn't want to go down market, which led to the explanation that Americans are not interested in hatchbacks.

Last edited by John Firestone; 08-05-2010 at 05:34 PM.
John Firestone is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
production numbers


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
what are the numbers stamped on Thule fit kit for 318ti jota.pe Exterior 4 08-19-2009 08:01 AM
M1 coming to production thesk8nmidget Lounge 2 05-30-2008 04:39 PM
318Ti Sport - M44 - Pulley Part Numbers - Needed 182Skylane Engine 3 05-06-2008 09:41 PM
VIN Decoding and Production #'s KetteringTi Misc 2 05-17-2006 07:59 PM
Production numbers clex2 Misc 3 08-17-2004 12:49 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:20 PM.


.
Powered by site supporters
vBulletin Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, 318ti.org
© vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2
[page compression: 136.90 k/161.71 k (15.34%)]

318ti.org does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information or products discussed.