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Old 01-17-2009, 05:55 AM   #1
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Hey guys, I got a question. My friend owns a 1996 GMC truck with a vortec engine, single cab, auto. If I recall, they have 450hp. Now we were gonna race on Lime Creek. It has lots of twists, turns, dips, and hills. It's any bmw owner's dream.

On day 1, me and another friend who owns a manual 325i raced, and I left him pretty far behind. Then I slowed down for a few seconds to let him catch up. I really pushed my car to the limit that time. Only performance mod is strut bar, and fogged air box.

On day 2, me and another friend who owns a m3 played tag, and I had a hell of a time trying to leave some space between us. He was just to good. I tried cutting corners, and accelerated as fast as possible on curves to the point that the tail was sliding every few seconds. Though, he told me that he underestimated the power a ti. His m3 is 1" lower and has a strut bar.

So my question is, how well do you think I will do against the GMC after I get my suspension in and rims? How tail happy are these trucks? A lot of the turns on the roads are somewhat uphill u-turns, and if you're going above 20mph on them, you will slide into a ditch. Keep in mind that I left the 325i pretty far behind, and gave the m3 the run for his money.

The whole point of this, is on Jan 30th, there is a bimmer meet going down in my area. And after a minutes of chit chatting, we're gonna go on Lime Creek, fill out the waiver, and go racing. I don't want to finish last. Both guys with the 325i and m3 will be there.
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450hp? no way. more like 230.

does the track even allow trucks? most places don't.
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EDIT: nevermind, just re-read lmao
shows ya how well they teach kids these days.
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450hp? no way. more like 230.

does the track even allow trucks? most places don't.
It's a vortec engine though. 5.1L i think. My dad used to have one, 'cept it was a duel cab.
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looks like they're all sub 300 hp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Vortec_engine
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That's a big relief! There is a straight away at the start. I was able to hit 105mph last time. But after that one straight away, it's nothing but full of turns and twists. This kid with the GM has been somewhat a rival. I would hate to lose to him. I'm so confident after the race with the e36 325i. I know I can nail him on the turns. But the thing I'm afraid of is that once he gets ahead of me on the straight away, I'm gonna have a hard time passing him.

Do yall have any sort of passing techniques?

I'm holding off this till I get new wheels. Even the bimmer meet. If I don't get wheels by then, I'll just sit it out and ride in the passenger of a m3 and record it for yall.

Btw, there is money riding on this
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i'm just completely shocked that some place lets you run wheel to wheel without a cage or kill switch or fire kit.....
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I'm completely shocked someone would bet money on a Ti with a strut bar and suspension.
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It's a vortec engine though. 5.1L i think. My dad used to have one, 'cept it was a duel cab.
lol, funny story, one of the guys I work with has a friend with an S10 with the vortec, he told him that vortec is the exact same thing as vtec with just a different brand name, he went out and started telling people he had a vtec engine in his truck

anyhoo, I wouldn't be concerned, with a truck, he's not going to be able to take the corners like you, there's not enough weight on the back wheels and it's higher (I assume)
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I'm completely shocked someone would bet money on a Ti with a strut bar and suspension.
Who says I have a strut bar? The guy with the m3 had the strut bar and suspension. And I didn't bet any money with the 2 bimmers. We were just having fun. The kid with the GMC is the one I'm betting against.

So back to the question, how do I pass him? The road is pretty narrow. If his truck gets tail happy on turns, I wont be able to pass him.
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watch Cops, and learn the pit maneuver.
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depending on how tail-happy he gets, you might not even need to pit him, just let him go off the track on his own
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How do you pass him?????? Man you shouldn't even be racing if you have to ask this question. There could many ways to pass him. It depends on what the situation is. And there could be several situations that would call for different maneuvers. I would say if you have a problem with passing....then don't let the truck get in front of you. You can handle this by yourself. Now go be a big boy and beat the truck and win some extra cash.
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Those guys with the 325is and M3 must be terrible drivers or have POS cars because there is no way a ti would beat either of those when everything is stock.

If you can "beat" an M3 then why are you so worried about some SUV?
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My bro has a 98 chevy and you aint got nothin to worry about going against the truck. The Ti would do good against it, but there's no point in doing so.
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