 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | | | |  |  |  | |  08-22-2007, 04:33 PM | #31 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,525 |
The second ones do not work on the Ti. Ireland Engineering originally designed those for the E30. I talked to Jeff Ireland about that type of bushing reinforcement and he said that because the "trunk" floor of the Ti is so different from that of the E30 that it would not fit. http://store.nexternal.com/shared/St...t=products.asp I've not heard of anybody with a Ti ripping the rear sway bar at the bushing mount. The usual failure is at the mounting tabs on the trailing arm. I would not go bigger than an m-tech rear sway bar without reinforcing those trailing arm tabs. |  |  | | 08-22-2007, 06:10 PM | #32 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,305 |
Awesome advice man, thanks for the links! Quote: Originally Posted by JedzE36/5  about the mount reinforcements... turner sells reinforcment kits for the front and rear. basically they are plates that you would have someone weld on to the subframe. if you arent a full race car then you could probably forget the front reinforcements for now. i would get the rear reinforcements though. several Tis and MZ3s around here have cracking issues even though they are just occassional autocrossers. The MZ3s using with stock bars and the Tis with aftermarket. the cost of the reinforcements is really small in comparisson to having to repair frame damage later. http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html..._ID=TSU3075305 im not too sure if we would use this: http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html..._ID=TSU3075308 | | | | | | 08-22-2007, 09:05 PM | #33 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 234 | 
Quote: Originally Posted by mohaughn The second ones do not work on the Ti. Ireland Engineering originally designed those for the E30. I talked to Jeff Ireland about that type of bushing reinforcement and he said that because the "trunk" floor of the Ti is so different from that of the E30 that it would not fit. http://store.nexternal.com/shared/St...t=products.asp I've not heard of anybody with a Ti ripping the rear sway bar at the bushing mount. The usual failure is at the mounting tabs on the trailing arm. I would not go bigger than an m-tech rear sway bar without reinforcing those trailing arm tabs. | thanks for that info! come to think of it, i dont know of anyone that has torn the area around the mount either, just the tabs (1st link). the only person i know to have tear in the metal was my buddy kyle who has a built S52 and was running a 3.73 LSD consistently on the track. the tear formed near the diff mounting bracket. totally off subject of the sway bars but something else to look at in the realm of reinforcement for our 'old' cars. __________________  | | | | | 08-23-2007, 03:09 AM | #34 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: cary, nc Posts: 2,259 |
ahh man i was ready to order them now but now i gotta think about the risks....i dont have the money to reinforce them, even if its small compared to a damaged frame.
has anyone ordered them yet? __________________ 1995 318ti Active
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how much should i expect to pay to get the supports welded on? | | | | | 08-23-2007, 05:20 PM | #36 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 234 |
if anything, sways for our car are hard to find. if you cant afford the reinforcement yet, i would get the sways and store them.
the welding should not cost alot at all. not sure until i do it but shouldnt be bad at all. if you know how to weld, you also should be able to rent a welder. just look at the phone book. __________________ | | | | | 08-23-2007, 08:29 PM | #37 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,305 |
Quote: Originally Posted by JedzE36/5 the welding should not cost alot at all. not sure until i do it but shouldnt be bad at all. if you know how to weld, you also should be able to rent a welder. just look at the phone book. | awesome, i'm not lucky enough to know how to weld so i'll just ask at the bmw shop | | | | | 08-23-2007, 08:53 PM | #38 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Odenton, MD Posts: 419 |
Quote: Originally Posted by PettitWC awesome, i'm not lucky enough to know how to weld so i'll just ask at the bmw shop | I would go to an exhaust shop instead. Most are great welders and will do it far cheaper than a BMW shop. I've been quoted 5 bucks a weld before. | | | | | 08-23-2007, 09:21 PM | #39 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,305 |
Just ordered mine!! Quote: Originally Posted by gimp I would go to an exhaust shop instead. Most are great welders and will do it far cheaper than a BMW shop. I've been quoted 5 bucks a weld before. | good deal. it has a pdf of instructions so i guess it would be tough to mess up. | | | | | 08-24-2007, 01:02 AM | #40 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 234 |
yea muffler shop would be best. hell some shops will do it for freesince it is so mundane. __________________ | | | | | 08-24-2007, 02:39 AM | #41 | | doesn't care about you. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,925 |
Have anyone ordered?
Anyone gotten it delivered? __________________ 
'99 Dinan M3 | | | | | 08-24-2007, 02:48 AM | #42 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,305 |
i ordered just today. i'll report when i get them in Quote: Originally Posted by DustenT Have anyone ordered?
Anyone gotten it delivered? | | | | | | 08-24-2007, 03:38 AM | #43 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Odenton, MD Posts: 419 |
Only two more people need to order and they get shipped. Hurry up so I can get my order too! | | | | | 08-24-2007, 03:40 AM | #44 | | doesn't care about you. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,925 |
Quote: Originally Posted by gimp Only two more people need to order and they get shipped. Hurry up so I can get my order too! | Oh, you guys are holding shipment until you get enough orders? __________________
'99 Dinan M3 | | | | | 08-24-2007, 05:05 AM | #45 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 234 |
oh crap really? well hell. ill order mine tomorrow. __________________ | | | | | |
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