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Old 08-09-2007, 07:58 PM   #1
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Question Which is a better Engine Software/Chip?

Okay, so i know this has been talked about countless times. the difference of engine chips, engine softwares, and transmission chips available out there for our Ti's. So far I've always read that the majority use the dinan chip/software, this is true right? I've also heard of the JET Chip, but now i just read up on the ECU tunning that NR Auto offer. the site is:
http://www.nrauto.com/sub_index.asp?...ge=Performance

The dinan software is said to increase HP by like 11 horses, and the JET Chip says about 15 horses, now the tunning that NR offers says 20hp! I even called them up on it. They're are local, in the San Fernando Valley, for those of us that live in LA county, SoCal area.

So what do you guys think? Legit? Or do you think Dinan still rules in this category? Opinions please. Should i be the one to try it? or is it a waste of money and i should just get the dinan software?
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Dinan's claim of 11hp only comes if you have the complete package: software, intake, exhaust.

NR's claim of 20 seems very far-fetched. You should ask for a dyno sheet for proof.
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yeah that was my next step. asking for a dyno sheet. and see what mods needs to be done to achieve the 20hp. cuz if itd be true that would be ideal for me.
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Forget the 20hp Its impossible with just a remap and a filter/exhaust.
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Last I check, NR was merely a distributor of aftermarket accessories, not a chip tuner. Ask who is their software tuner, as well as if the chip can be tuned for piss-poor 91 octane. If its tuned for high octane and you use it, your driveability will suck and your engine will be at higher risk of pinging.
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Forget the 20hp Its impossible with just a remap and a filter/exhaust.
Very true.
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I have the Dinan software and intake and it makes a big difference in free revving the engine. Much more peppy than the non-chipped version. Well worth it to me.
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There website says 20hp for an e36 M3. Which is very possible. I don't see that they list the 318ti at all.
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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It was pretty hard to accept it that it'd reach 20hp increase by merely the intake and exhaust. You'd have to add some other kind of modification to your engine. And besides Dinan, I'm sure, has had a history of the engine software for the bimmers.
At the time it sounded pretty nice. just having to add the chip/software and achieve such an increase in HP.
Im still gonna ask them who they use to tune the ECU. Even though im still gonna go with Dinan anyway, seems for secure with the history backing them up.
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So wots the price for a Dinan chip (its not a company thats known in the uk really).. Someone give me an price idea for newer car...(mines a yr2000 but US only went up to 1999 i think, but its the same engine)
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I just looked on the Dinan Site. It says that for the 1996-1999 itll be the engine software and the HP gain is like 5hp, and for the 95 and older its 11hp. I thought it'd be the same, no?
BTW oakley, the 96+ engine software is about $299, and for the 95 and older its $199. (i think its b.s.) But you'll have to give them a call see if they have it for the 2000, im sure they have it if u say its the same.
take a look: http://www.dinancars.com/Series.asp?...is=25&Model=36
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OBD2 cars are much harder to tune/extract power from than OBD1 cars, hence the less hp gain for the later years.

Also, for the 95 cars, a simple chip replacement is used to bump hp.
As for 96+, a flash of the ECU is required, hence the higher cost.
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