318ti.org forum

Go Back   318ti.org forum > Technical, Maintenance and Modifications > Brakes

Notices

Brakes From what pads to use to brake upgrades.

.
» Recent Threads
The 318ti OBD-II engine...
10-19-2006 06:48 PM
Last post by kupkake303
Yesterday 06:12 PM
211 Replies, 1,307,846 Views
1999 M3 Swap
09-07-2023 10:10 PM
Last post by buzzboy
05-02-2024 08:18 PM
6 Replies, 405,075 Views
Reply Share/Bookmark
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-06-2004, 04:36 AM   #1
Budget M3
Senior Member
 
Budget M3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: LA & Colo Spgs
Posts: 210
iTrader: (1)
Default

I've pretty much settled on the E36 325/328 upgrade to stay within the "Budget", but don't have to do the work for at least a month yet. In the meantime, I'd like to know if anyone here has done the E46 upgrade. What are the size of the E46 330i rotors compared to the E36 328's? I know they're more expensive, but are they worth the extra $$?? Where did you source your used E46 calipers?

TIA...
__________________
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2649/...c8df67b9_m.jpg
'98 318ti Sport, Avus, Cali roof, DASC, UUC flywheel/M5 clutch, AC Schnitzer springs & trim package, Koni adjustables, Remus exhaust, etc. -- The Original Budget M3
Budget M3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2004, 04:48 AM   #2
1996 328ti
Senior Member
 
1996 328ti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 9,356
Vehicles
iTrader: (1)
Default

I got my 325/328 calipers from Zionsville. I imagine they see E46 calipers too. I still think you are going way over budget.
You want E46 rotors and I don't think anyone is going to stop you.
__________________
...steven
BMW CCA #146825
1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i
www.bmwcca.org
1996 328ti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2004, 03:16 AM   #3
Budget M3
Senior Member
 
Budget M3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: LA & Colo Spgs
Posts: 210
iTrader: (1)
Default

Understand it might be overkill, but...just looking for another data point before I make my purchase. I compared the rotor sizes between my ti's solid rotors and my '94 325i's vented rotors and found less than .5" difference. If I can get a little larger than that without having to spend a lot more $$$, I might consider it, but am looking for a first hand account of whether or not it was worth the bucks...

Anyone gone the E46 route?
__________________
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2649/...c8df67b9_m.jpg
'98 318ti Sport, Avus, Cali roof, DASC, UUC flywheel/M5 clutch, AC Schnitzer springs & trim package, Koni adjustables, Remus exhaust, etc. -- The Original Budget M3
Budget M3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2004, 04:34 AM   #4
1996 328ti
Senior Member
 
1996 328ti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 9,356
Vehicles
iTrader: (1)
Default

Just the fact that they are vented will make a huge difference. I experienced fading at the track with solid rotors. The track was a short circuit and there was little time for the brakes to cool. Never had fading issues with the 325/328 setup unless I waited too long between brake fluid changes.
__________________
...steven
BMW CCA #146825
1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i
www.bmwcca.org
1996 328ti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2004, 08:56 AM   #5
Panzer_M
Senior Member
 
Panzer_M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Port St. Johns, Florida
Posts: 2,242
iTrader: (0)
Default

seen pics of the e46 job.

saw a e46 rotor compared to the Ti's OEM

well as they ladies say

Size Does Matter

Since I am going with a M50B25 I am going with 325/328 brakes.
__________________
1995 BMW 318ti ClubSport
Member 35 of BF.C M42 Club
Mods? yea it's got some.
http://www.cfbmw.org/garage.php?mode=view_vehicle&CID=1
Panzer_M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2004, 01:16 AM   #6
Budget M3
Senior Member
 
Budget M3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: LA & Colo Spgs
Posts: 210
iTrader: (1)
Default

Yeah...When all was said and done, I ended up going with the 325/328 setup, too. Sourcing the brackets for the E46 calipers proved to be too difficult/expensive. The calipers themselves are not much more expensive than the used E36 parts, but the bracket to mount them is the long pole unless you can find a wrecked 330i.
__________________
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2649/...c8df67b9_m.jpg
'98 318ti Sport, Avus, Cali roof, DASC, UUC flywheel/M5 clutch, AC Schnitzer springs & trim package, Koni adjustables, Remus exhaust, etc. -- The Original Budget M3
Budget M3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2004, 11:02 PM   #7
J!m
Moderator
 
J!m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT!
Posts: 3,156
Vehicles
iTrader: (1)
Default

A used E36 M3 set up should not be too bad at this point. Most M3ers are going to HUGE brakes, when the stock ones are just fine with proper pads, lines and fluid... The ONLY advantage I can see to replacement on a M3 is less unsprung weight.

Keep eyes peeled for those maybe.

(note: it will require extensive parts replacement in the front to install, and you need M roadster/coupe` rear parts)
__________________
"Speed's just a question of money. How fast you 'wanna go?"

Order Swap Manuals Here => http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12912

WolferJ- gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
J!m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2004, 01:34 AM   #8
KIRASIR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 148
iTrader: (0)
Default

http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/show...ghlight=brakes

Size DOES matter indeed.

BTW 330 front calipers cost 150US used and are NOT hard at all to find in the States.
KIRASIR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2004, 02:35 AM   #9
1996 328ti
Senior Member
 
1996 328ti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 9,356
Vehicles
iTrader: (1)
Default

Size matters in heat dissipation. Once you are into your ABS or at the point of threshold braking, big brakes don't make you stop faster. Tires are probably the biggest factor in braking.

I have yet to have any braking issues with E36 vented front rotors. The only time I had brake fade was waiting too long to replace my fluid. And if it is just a matter of looks for the street, do whatever you want but realize, big brakes do not make you stop faster.
__________________
...steven
BMW CCA #146825
1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i
www.bmwcca.org
1996 328ti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2004, 04:15 AM   #10
Phil Marx
Senior Member
 
Phil Marx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 368
iTrader: (0)
Default

I'm seldom lucky but somehow in my ignorance in purchasing my 318ti recently I ended up with a '98 built in April 1998, the month they switched to vented front rotors. Now I've driven a lot of BMWs over the 30 years I've owned and sold them but I can't remember a BMW that stopped appreciably better than this ti with the Hawk HPS pads I put on the front.

YMMV.

-Phil Marx
Phil Marx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2004, 03:45 PM   #11
rated///M
Member
 
rated///M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NC
Posts: 36
iTrader: (0)
Default

Excuse my igonorance... will you have to swap spindles, and brackets for the 330 brakes? Or is this simply for the e36 M3 brakes?
__________________
Trevor
'88 Four-Eyed 'Fridge - '89 325is - '91 318is - '90 325is
rated///M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2004, 05:44 PM   #12
KIRASIR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 148
iTrader: (0)
Default

It's a direct bolt-on, all you need is the calipers and the carriers from the 330.

SL

Quote:
Originally Posted by rated///M
Excuse my igonorance... will you have to swap spindles, and brackets for the 330 brakes? Or is this simply for the e36 M3 brakes?
KIRASIR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2004, 07:11 PM   #13
Silver00spike
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 411
iTrader: (0)
Default

would brakes from the x3 fit? They're huge
Silver00spike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2004, 11:12 PM   #14
2ndBimmer
Senior Member
 
2ndBimmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 678
iTrader: (2)
Default

X3 3.0 and 330i wear the same size rotors. 12.8 inches up front.
__________________
BostonGreen 97' w/ DASC & Technique Stage 1 software
M3 front bumper. BavAuto Springs. Bilstein Sport Shocks. Xbrace. BA Short Shifter.
Angel Eyes Headlights, doubled brake lights
225/50/16's Yokohama Advan S4's
Panasonic 70Wx4 CD/MP3 player + 4x Alpine 6x9's rear
2ndBimmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2004, 03:35 AM   #15
RAiMA
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 593
iTrader: (0)
Default

From a safety point of view, if it helps avoid or even minimise the damage in an accident, it's well worth the money.
__________________
RAiMA
Old RT E36 S/C'd 318ti Sports 13.318 @ 105.99mph
New RT E36 Turbo 328ti Sports 12.25 @ 123mph
BMW E39 528i Touring
Performance at its best
RAiMA is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Comprehensive Brake Info Thread RidingSimple Brakes 107 12-01-2021 08:14 PM
underneath radiator cover part#? jkilla71 Lounge 33 08-16-2007 02:31 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:02 PM.


.
Powered by site supporters
vBulletin Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, 318ti.org
© vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2
[page compression: 121.61 k/145.79 k (16.59%)]

318ti.org does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information or products discussed.