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Old 02-13-2012, 07:09 AM   #1
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Default URGENT: torsen LSD oil

need help urgently please
what oil should i use in my torsen lsd?
75-140 or 75-90
should i use LSD oil or not?

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Old 02-13-2012, 12:24 PM   #2
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:32 PM   #3
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You don't have a Torsen LSD, you have a standard clutch type LSD. Pictures speak for themselves: http://www.318ti.org/forum/showpost....&postcount=100

It is what it is man, I'm not just making stuff up.
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This is an open differential. Note the "spider" gears which are CLEARLY visible inside of the carrier:


This is a LSD. Note the clutch plates are CLEARLY visible inside of the carrier:


This is a Torsen differential. Note the linear cut gears are CLEARLY visible inside of the carrier:


This is YOUR differential which you posted in another thread. Note the clutch plates are CLEARLY visible inside of the carrier:


When you removed the cover, there should've been a metal tag hanging from one of the bolts. It should say something along the lines of "S3.45" "S4.44" etc. The "S" signifies that it's an LSD. It should also have a white "S" painted on the top of the housing(which can only be seen if you remove the diff). Again, the "S" signifies that it's an LSD.

If it were a Torsen diff, it would have an "R" either on the tag or painted on top of the housing.

Perhaps you don't believe me:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...1&postcount=18

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Old 02-13-2012, 03:37 PM   #5
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R345 thats written on metal tag
and i can see some gears inside the gap while spinning the wheel
probably i'll upload a video when i get home from work in an hour or so
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R345 thats written on metal tag
and i can see some gears inside the gap while spinning the wheel
probably i'll upload a video when i get home from work in an hour or so
Ok, well I could be wrong about the "R" thing. I can't seem to find where I read that before. I'd have to see if the gears you mentioned are helicoil cut or not to tell if it's a Torsen. I don't think any 318ti's came with Torsen diffs. What year is your car? If it is a Torsen, which I still doubt by looking at the picture you posted, it must have been swapped by one of the previous owners.
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i think its a non-M, Z3 diff
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i think its a non-M, Z3 diff
Well that explains it then. It should be a Torsen diff then. I don't understand why it looks like it has clutch plates

Here's where I read about the "R" thing. Post#4 in this thread:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...php?p=23309096
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It seems like the picture volga posted is of a small case diff. I don't think they made any torsen small case diffs, they were only medium case for the non M Z3s. Better picture of the whole case would clear that up though.
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here you can see moving gears inside, while spinning the wheel

yes its a small 168 diff case

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There are moving gears inside open and clutch type differentials too.
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open diff excluded,
clutch type spins both wheels...
torsen left?
p.s. i used magnet, not a single piece of metal detected, oil was clean (not damaged)

watch this video
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As Dave said, all three styles of diffs have moving gears inside of the diff carrier. Open and LSD both have spider gears, however on a LSD they are mostly covered up by the clutch plates which is what I think we're seeing when looking at your diff. On a Torsen diff, the gears are positioned horizontally in a linear arrangement and they are helicoil cut(like a barber pole).

You said "you think" it came out of a non-M Z3. What would lead you to believe that? Did you install it or did it come on the car when you bought it? You might have a LSD with worn clutches.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:02 PM   #15
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someone who owned this car several years ago told me its from Z3...
in case of worn plates, it should not lock am i right?
it locks perfect ... )))
i used to have worn out diffs on E30s and i have experience, how bad they work

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