Check out the 135i 6 piston brake and OEM LSD

[StealthBimmer]

Check out this great thread with pics showing the details of the 6 piston brake and OEM LSD.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1960

[1996 328ti]

It's just going to make rebuilding the calipers that much more money.
They better fix the cooling issues first.
From what I understand, 335s can't do more than a 20 minute track session before overheating.

[Mallard]

did anyone notice the diff?

looked like a e30/compact arrangement ?

[larryn]

Originally Posted by 1996 328ti

It's just going to make rebuilding the calipers that much more money.
They better fix the cooling issues first.
From what I understand, 335s can't do more than a 20 minute track session before overheating.

How do you know they haven't fixed the cooling issues? I'm planning on tracking the bujebuz out of mine, when I get it. Sports package gets the oil cooler.

I'll take those brakes. Would you rather it had single piston front and rear?? Remember, you get free service (including brakes) for the first 4yrs/50k miles.

Btw, there is no factory delivered OEM LSD option. The 135i does have an "electronic LSD" though, that brakes the spinning tire using ABS and Traction Control circuitry. There is a BMW performance catalog floating around that states they will be selling aftermarket cams and a true mechanical locking differential, along with coilovers/sways/etc. I find that very strange. Almost like they are breaking their relationship with Dinan in the USA.

[1996 328ti]

Originally Posted by larryn

Almost like they are breaking their relationship with Dinan in the USA.

They probably want the money for themselves, very much like Jim Cooper Works for the MINI.

[aceyx]

6 pots doesn't mean a damn unless the rotors can absorb/dissapate that energy.

I'm also willing to bet tracking the car (other than a few select driver training courses) will void your warranty.

[larryn]

Originally Posted by aceyx

6 pots doesn't mean a damn unless the rotors can absorb/dissapate that energy.

I'm also willing to bet tracking the car (other than a few select driver training courses) will void your warranty.

The 135i has no fog light option because there is a large brake duct there instead.

The local dealerships sponsor track days and autocross events. It doesn't void the warranty, unless you turn your car into a track car and expect it to be covered as you stress components.

I've had one friend get a service denied for "operation beyond intended use", because he had his track tires on the car. I told him to swap the tires out at that dealership and have it towed to another, where he got covered without an issue.

[cali-ti]

Originally Posted by StealthBimmer

Check out this great thread with pics showing the details of the 6 piston brake and OEM LSD.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1960

wow, i just read that whole thread and they argue as much or more than people here do

[96cali]

Originally Posted by larryn

I find that very strange. Almost like they are breaking their relationship with Dinan in the USA.

They are not technically doing that but are creating their own in-house brand of upgrades. Obviously this cuts into Dinans business hugely but it's not well publicized. Dinan is WAY exposed when it comes to market channels having basically one customer. Not sure if it's up to the individual dealer or if BMWNA dictates what can be sold but I bet Dinan is a bit worried at being reduced to any old aftermarket supplier.

[AKBimmer]

I'm not a big fan of any motor that you can't check the oil in it. From an interview in Bimmer (I think) they have no plans to ever put a dipstick back on their motors. It's all fine and good but electrical crap goes bad a whole lot more often than a dipstick. I may be off base but I'll pass on the new BMW's and just stick with e46 and older.

Craig

[thesk8nmidget]

i like the little ipod usb port and hideaway pouch and red leather!

and yeah the rear end looked a lot like out setup!

[mohaughn]

335i's still have tracking issues. Your normal inexperienced driver at a DE doing 12-25 minute sessions will probably not have a problem. They are not up to doing 30 minute sessions at the hands of a very skilled driver that can push the car to the limit. They heat soak, lose a lot of power, then overheat and go into limp mode. I've seen one guy really pushing his 335 at the track and it turns out he did have an aftermarket intercooler and tuning. From posts over at the track section on BfC people were seeing failures this past year at the east coast BMW CR events.

As for Dinan.. They deserve to lose their business. Their products are overpriced "designer" items. You can easily buy better, more affordable parts from vendors like Bimmerworld, RRT, Turner, etc... There is no need to spend what Dinan charges for their products.

[larryn]

There were a lot of 335is with no separate oil cooler. The ones that don't have it overheat and go into limp mode. Newer 335is are all equipped with the auxilliary oil cooler and do not have this issue (supposedly). I'm hoping that they don't repeat history, especially with the 135i being more of a trackable car than a 335i (M Sports bits, 6 piston calipers, lighter, enhanced differential, a bit quicker...). That was some serious bad press with the limping twin snail cars..

[autoxerwgn]

Originally Posted by AKBimmer

I'm not a big fan of any motor that you can't check the oil in it. From an interview in Bimmer (I think) they have no plans to ever put a dipstick back on their motors. It's all fine and good but electrical crap goes bad a whole lot more often than a dipstick. I may be off base but I'll pass on the new BMW's and just stick with e46 and older.

Craig

It's not like anyone checks it anyway. BMW transmissions have been without dipsticks for how long now? There is no warning light for fluid level and when was the last time anyone checked that? I'm not saying that I like the idea of not having a dipstick but it makes sense to make a car that way. Why waste money to add extra parts to the engine that 95% of people will never touch?

[autoxerwgn]

Originally Posted by larryn

There were a lot of 335is with no separate oil cooler. The ones that don't have it overheat and go into limp mode. Newer 335is are all equipped with the auxilliary oil cooler and do not have this issue (supposedly). I'm hoping that they don't repeat history, especially with the 135i being more of a trackable car than a 335i (M Sports bits, 6 piston calipers, lighter, enhanced differential, a bit quicker...). That was some serious bad press with the limping twin snail cars..

All of the early 335i's with an automatic trans (with or without the Sport Pack), and non-sport pack manuals did NOT have the oil cooler. Even with the oil cooler, the oil temps are still pretty high, about 230-250 degrees. In my opinion, the problem isn't if you have an oil cooler or not, it's that the oil cooler isn't big enough even if you do have one. Instead of being installed in the fender area, they should have made it much larger, like the one on an E46 M3.

According to people at BMW, unofficially, they expect that the 135 will be used for motorsports, and be driven much harder by their owners than any of their other cars. This is why they are upgrading many of the parts such as the brakes to be able to handle the abuse. I too hope that they have added a much larger oil cooler to be able to cope with the heat that the turbos are putting out.