» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | | | 02-12-2011, 02:19 AM | #1 | Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: PA Posts: 75 | M-Tech ti undergoing S52 swap! 332ti in the making! I dropped my car off today with Marc (Mdpowered) at MoonLite MotorWerks In Gilbertsville Pa to start the S52 swap process. There will be pictures of the swap as soon as he starts. While I was there, my eyes could not stop wondering to look at all of the nice rides in the making there at his shop. I can hardly wait to see the outcome! I am also doing a M50 intake swap onto this motor once I get the feeling of the balls the surgery has given it. I am sure I will be happy with the enlarged testicular sack this car will have in the end! Last edited by 318teeeye; 02-12-2011 at 02:22 AM. | | | 02-12-2011, 02:46 AM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | Do the intake before the engine is installed.... __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 02-12-2011, 02:54 AM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nj Posts: 1,099 | +1. we love to see pictures...lol good luck w the swap __________________ 318ti MZK2 | | | 02-12-2011, 03:00 AM | #4 | Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: PA Posts: 75 | Quote: Originally Posted by 318_mzk2 +1. we love to see pictures...lol good luck w the swap | Now I'm just trying to figure out what swap I can do to the front end ie; headlights.. | | | 02-12-2011, 03:41 AM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Potomac Falls VA DMV Posts: 1,794 | Pics asap! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Im guessing im the youngest member on here with a S52 power'ed Ti at 16 years old! | | | 02-12-2011, 03:57 AM | #6 | Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: PA Posts: 75 | | | | 02-12-2011, 07:12 AM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Des Plaines, IL Posts: 147 | hey how much are you going to pay for the swap? Is $5000 too much for a swap? | | | 02-12-2011, 02:18 PM | #8 | Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: PA Posts: 75 | Quote: Originally Posted by pi4ovete_84 hey how much are you going to pay for the swap? Is $5000 too much for a swap? | That price sounds just about right. The motor, trans, wiring harness, ECU, install, 6cyl. cluster and key alignment is around $4,000. Then you have to figure in the cost of a rear to be fabricated. So around $5,000 sounds about right. | | | 02-12-2011, 02:26 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nj Posts: 1,099 | Quote: Originally Posted by 318teeeye That price sounds just about right. The motor, trans, wiring harness, ECU, install, 6cyl. cluster and key alignment is around $4,000. Then you have to figure in the cost of a rear to be fabricated. So around $5,000 sounds about right. | ??? __________________ 318ti MZK2 | | | 02-12-2011, 02:42 PM | #10 | Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: PA Posts: 75 | The ti rear is not strong enough to handle the added ponies for a prolonged period of time. The rear has to be taken from a M series 6cyl. or whatever else you want depending on the gear ratio, then the shafts have to be split so you can take the inner from the "upgraded" rear and outter from your ti. If you just leave the stock ti rear in it will not hold up to much abuse and fail sooner than later. | | | 02-12-2011, 08:01 PM | #11 | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 | Quote: Originally Posted by 318teeeye The ti rear is not strong enough to handle the added ponies for a prolonged period of time. The rear has to be taken from a M series 6cyl. or whatever else you want depending on the gear ratio, then the shafts have to be split so you can take the inner from the "upgraded" rear and outter from your ti. If you just leave the stock ti rear in it will not hold up to much abuse and fail sooner than later. | yes and no... Yes the differential will need to be replaced with a medium case diff. The stock ti diff is a small case and will not hold up long to the added torque of the 6cyl swap. No you can't use a differential off any M series or 6cyl. e36 diffs WILL NOT FIT ON THE TI. They have a completely different mounting setup. The Ti uses the same mounting points and diff hanger as e30's and Z3's. e24's and e28's have the same mounting points, however the diff hangers are a different style. If you use an e24 or e28 diff, you'll need a cover off of a 6cyl e30 diff or a 6cyl z3, MZ3 or Mcoupe(not an M3 2dr, but a MZ3 Hardtop). 4cyl BMW's came with small case diffs, 6cyl BMW's came with medium case diffs and 8cyl+ came with large case diffs. You can use a diff out of a 6cyl e30, 6cyl Z3, 6cyl Mcoupe(NOT an M3), e24 or e28. Again, if you use an e24 or e28 diff, you'll need to swap the cover and output flanges. As for the halfshafts, no you don't "split" the ti shafts or anything of the sort. The ti shafts are too long since the medium case diff is wider than the stock small case diffs, the halfshafts won't fit right between the wheel hubs and the differential output flanges. Use 6cyl e30 or 6cyl Z3 halfshafts since they're shorter and are designed to work with the medium case diffs. The differential output flanges will have to match whatever halfshafts you get. The flanges pop right out of the sides of the diff, with a big ass screwdriver or prybar. | | | 02-12-2011, 08:08 PM | #12 | Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: PA Posts: 75 | Quote: Originally Posted by cooljess76 yes and no... Yes the differential will need to be replaced with a medium case diff. The stock ti diff is a small case and will not hold up long to the added torque of the 6cyl swap. No you can't use a differential off any M series or 6cyl. e36 diffs WILL NOT FIT ON THE TI. They have a completely different mounting setup. The Ti uses the same mounting points and diff hanger as e30's and Z3's. e24's and e28's have the same mounting points, however the diff hangers are a different style. If you use an e24 or e28 diff, you'll need a cover off of a 6cyl e30 diff or a 6cyl z3, MZ3 or Mcoupe(not an M3 2dr, but a MZ3 Hardtop). 4cyl BMW's came with small case diffs, 6cyl BMW's came with medium case diffs and 8cyl+ came with large case diffs. You can use a diff out of a 6cyl e30, 6cyl Z3, 6cyl Mcoupe(NOT an M3), e24 or e28. Again, if you use an e24 or e28 diff, you'll need to swap the cover and output flanges. As for the halfshafts, no you don't "split" the ti shafts or anything of the sort. The ti shafts are too long since the medium case diff is wider than the stock small case diffs, the halfshafts won't fit right between the wheel hubs and the differential output flanges. Use 6cyl e30 or 6cyl Z3 halfshafts since they're shorter and are designed to work with the medium case diffs. The differential output flanges will have to match whatever halfshafts you get. The flanges pop right out of the sides of the diff, with a big ass screwdriver or prybar. | Ok, thanks for the info. I was not sure what had to be done as I new to this. | | | 02-12-2011, 03:39 PM | #13 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nj Posts: 1,099 | that doesn't require any fabrication tho....maybe just swap diffs and axels.. i got a friend that has a fully built s50 pushing a lil less than 400hp..and has a complete mcoupe rear to hold.. __________________ 318ti MZK2 | | | 02-12-2011, 04:37 PM | #14 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 3,877 | Yeah, there is a lot of swap info on this site. The only fabrication I can think of is the exhaust and making little spacers for the rear abs sensors if you swap in a medium case diff and E30 axles. Jesse made some beautiful spacers but I think you could also just stick a washer in there. I also think the stock small case rear end is more stout than people give it credit for. Now, if you are going for big power, that's a different story. __________________ ~Dave~ 98 328ti Morea Grun slicktop 11 128i space gray slicktop 13 JGC WK2 Deep Cherry Search | RealOEM | | | 02-12-2011, 10:44 PM | #15 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | Quote: Originally Posted by spidertri Yeah, there is a lot of swap info on this site. The only fabrication I can think of is the exhaust and making little spacers for the rear abs sensors if you swap in a medium case diff and E30 axles. Jesse made some beautiful spacers but I think you could also just stick a washer in there. I also think the stock small case rear end is more stout than people give it credit for. Now, if you are going for big power, that's a different story. | +1, i beat the living snot out of my small case before it died. It had around 202k of autox, track, and drifting on top of my 2.5, track, drift, hard launches. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |