 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | | | |  |  |  | |  05-05-2007, 08:07 PM | #1 | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: edh Posts: 2 |  clutch upgrade?
im looking to get a new clutch for my 98 318i and i want to put soemthing in that is stronger than the stock one. i was told by somone on another forum that the 323/325 clutch will fit in and can handle more power. has anyone on here ever done that.
im going to be purchasing the dasc in the next few months as well so i want to upgrade it anyways. |  |  | | 05-06-2007, 12:49 AM | #2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: G-dale, California Posts: 1,698 |
let me ask you something...is your TI going to be over 800hp? if so then you can upgrade the clutch because our clutches are known to hold A LOT of power. I just got a new OEM satch clutch and WOW this thing has hold. You dont need to upgrade the clutch the oem clutch will do perfectly fine with the dasc __________________ Live Everyday As If Its Your Last
A friend is someone who is willing to step into a flame to save you........aka a 318ti   | | | | | 05-06-2007, 03:14 AM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: boston Posts: 142 |
Go to a clutch shop and ask a expert! __________________
HIOP TWINSCREW w/aftercooler water to air,
3.73 lsd,ported headdone,performence valve springs w/titanium retainersinstalled..nitrous kitinstalled fun fun
X brace installed5th injector w/ piggyback controler, high flow cat | | | | | 05-06-2007, 07:21 PM | #4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 382 |
Quote: Originally Posted by M3_KILL3R  let me ask you something...is your TI going to be over 800hp? if so then you can upgrade the clutch because our clutches are known to hold A LOT of power. I just got a new OEM satch clutch and WOW this thing has hold. You dont need to upgrade the clutch the oem clutch will do perfectly fine with the dasc | and you know this cos u have a DASC ? Quote: | Originally Posted by jonchino Go to a clutch shop and ask a expert! | good advise... do i ask someone in a shop who will sell me the most expensive part or do i go online to a car specific forum where members can give me feedback on the different alternatives... way to treat a new member guys  Quote: | Originally Posted by nightferret im looking to get a new clutch for my 98 318i and i want to put soemthing in that is stronger than the stock one. i was told by somone on another forum that the 323/325 clutch will fit in and can handle more power. has anyone on here ever done that.
im going to be purchasing the dasc in the next few months as well so i want to upgrade it anyways. | personally i have found the stock clutch to be only just adequate for the power of an m42/4... and your smart to upgrade when your getting the dasc anyway.... theres a couple of options for ye... spec do some really good clutch for our cars for the money but i have no personal experience and wouldnt like to make a judgement... theres a fidanza flywheel/m3 clutch option for decent enough money and i can give you feedback on it on tuesday  ... i THINK all e36 clutchs are interchangable but i think you need to change the flywheel aswell.... __________________ .............................
..........1999 318iS Coupe..........  Finally Supercharged ......................................................................... | | | | | 05-06-2007, 11:07 PM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: G-dale, California Posts: 1,698 |
Quote: Originally Posted by 318iS
personally i have found the stock clutch to be only just adequate for the power of an m42/4... and your smart to upgrade when your getting the dasc anyway.... .
| hmmm how could yourself know this if you havnt tried it with a DASC or a motor swap. Why are you trying to make this guy spend over a 2 grand in a clutch job?? i know personally people with a dasc with the stock clutch and they dont have any problems or complaints. My friend has a turbo 325 with a stock clutch and it still holds, seeing that the car has 732 horses and the clutch holds i think ours will hold even with 200hp .... __________________ Live Everyday As If Its Your Last
A friend is someone who is willing to step into a flame to save you........aka a 318ti | | | | | 05-06-2007, 11:35 PM | #6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 382 |
oh im sure the standard clutch will hold 200bhp... FOR ABOUT A WEEK.... but your right i cant say anything cos i dont have a dasc... but neither do you ... i found that the standard clutch will not last very long with spirited driving IN MY EXPERIENCE.... i think people with DASCs should get into this conversation so me and you who are clueless on the subject dont fight over nothing.... oh and 2 grand on a clutch job ? no way... my clutch+flywheel cos me just a little over what you payed for your oem clutch cos you were to scared to buy a bentley manual and try it yourself.... __________________ .............................
..........1999 318iS Coupe.......... Finally Supercharged ......................................................................... | | | | | 05-06-2007, 11:48 PM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: state college, pa Posts: 3,431 |
Quote: Originally Posted by 318iS i think people with DASCs should get into this conversation so me and you who are clueless on the subject dont fight over nothing.... | Then post in the appropriate forum. Ad hominem isn't necessary. __________________
I scream, you scream, we all scream for ZOMBIES. | | | | | 05-07-2007, 04:14 AM | #8 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: boston Posts: 142 |
318is, You shop around, call for estimates. A shop that makes clutchs will break it down and make a clutch for what you want(road racing, dragstrip, and all around). What kind of clutches are best for you? Original Equipment Clutches? Performance & HD Clutches? Organic Clutches? Cerametallic Clutches? Kevlar Clutches? Read this. http://www.dialaclutch.com/clutches.htm __________________
HIOP TWINSCREW w/aftercooler water to air,
3.73 lsd,ported headdone,performence valve springs w/titanium retainersinstalled..nitrous kitinstalled fun fun
X brace installed5th injector w/ piggyback controler, high flow cat | | | | | 05-07-2007, 04:46 PM | #9 | | Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 39 |
There's a guy on bimmerforums.com that has an IS and he's turbocharged running 6 pounds. He said the clutch went out within 2 weeks and it was brand spankin new...so he upgraded to a M3 clutch and flywheel...then he blew the diff. up so he upgraded to a M3 3.27 (i think) LSD and he said he hasn't had any problems since. so the stock clutches are really only good for a stock or SLIGHTLY modded M42. | | | | | 05-08-2007, 12:06 AM | #10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: G-dale, California Posts: 1,698 |
i dont know cuz i know hugo has a sc and runs the stock clutch and hasnt had any problems ...its all up to the way you drive the car i guess... __________________ Live Everyday As If Its Your Last
A friend is someone who is willing to step into a flame to save you........aka a 318ti | | | | | 05-08-2007, 12:46 AM | #11 | | doesn't care about you. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,925 |
Quote: Originally Posted by M3_KILL3R i dont know cuz i know hugo has a sc and runs the stock clutch and hasnt had any problems ...its all up to the way you drive the car i guess... | Don't use Hugo as an example for anything. He didn't feel any additional power after installing his supercharger either... YES, you'll need an upgraded clutch. I put a stock clutch in about 50k miles ago and it slips pretty bad. The stock clutch is probably good for 150hp, not 700hp. Jeez... If you get a 32X clutch, make sure you run the appropriate flywheel too. The m3 clutch and flywheel work, as does the UUC stage 2 flywheel and m5 clutch (which is the best setup on the market currently). And a friendly reminder to everyone: Don't post advice if you don't know what you are talking about. Keep the forum clean and free of pointless, useless posts. mKay? __________________ 
'99 Dinan M3 | | | | | 05-08-2007, 01:00 AM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 585 |
I went to the track in Topeka with some family friends. There was a 318ti DASC there with a stock clutch. They girl made it 2 time around. The clutch was shot. We ended up taking her and her ti back because she didn't have any way back.
I'd follow DustenT's advice and go with one of his two options. __________________  | | | | | 06-16-2007, 12:51 AM | #13 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 13 |
Quote: Originally Posted by 318iS i think people with DASCs should get into this conversation so me and you who are clueless on the subject dont fight over nothing.... | Have been wrestling with this question today--Joined the forum to get info (hope you all don't kick me out as I'm not a ti, But I am an M44 with dasc) So, I got less than 20,000 miles out of a new stock clutch- I put it in before I installed the dasc and it's shot. Until recently this has been my weekend car and when I did drive it, I was very hard on it... I'm going with an M3 clutch and a lightweight flywheel. I'm hoping for more clamp force, better hook-up without losing stop and go drivability. I'll let you know how it goes--I should pick it up on Monday or Tues. | | | | | 06-16-2007, 01:26 AM | #14 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: lancashire, england Posts: 300 |
Quote: Originally Posted by DustenT Don't use Hugo as an example for anything. He didn't feel any additional power after installing his supercharger either...
YES, you'll need an upgraded clutch. I put a stock clutch in about 50k miles ago and it slips pretty bad.
The stock clutch is probably good for 150hp, not 700hp. Jeez...
If you get a 32X clutch, make sure you run the appropriate flywheel too. The m3 clutch and flywheel work, as does the UUC stage 2 flywheel and m5 clutch (which is the best setup on the market currently).
And a friendly reminder to everyone: Don't post advice if you don't know what you are talking about. Keep the forum clean and free of pointless, useless posts. mKay? | bang on, it depends on the driver also. i've ate through an O.E clutch pack in less than 20,000 miles with an m42 only reaching 150bhp. __________________ 
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E36 1.8 318ti Cosmos Schwarz | | | | | 06-22-2007, 11:24 PM | #15 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 13 |
Got the car back on Tues, have been babying it a little to let the clutch get settled in, but I can already say I love it. It is a stock e36 clutch plate with a low mass single plate flywheel-- Higher clamp force makes for much better hook-up, and solid shifts. Lighter fly has the whole thing much more responsive. __________________
'96 318iC-DASC, TT Stage 1, Eibach springs/sways, 3.91 LSD, Bilstein HD, M3 hats/bushings/clutch, -3* camber, Sparco Strut Brace, bolt-in 4-pt roll bar/schroth harnesses (bar/harnesses for track days/hpdes only) | | | | | |
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