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Still better than running dry though but you'll never know what it's doing to your synchronizers. BMW recommends ATF, Dexron or Pentosin. | Quote: Originally Posted by BlackBMWs Interesting, I know using this in my 5 series manuals have made shifting smoother and quieter. Thanks for the feedback, I'll research further. Cheers! | This is interesting as I was considering using something thicker in the tranny as I figured thicker would mean smoother shifting and less wear and tear at operating temperatures. I can see how it might make for stiff or sluggish gear shifts when cold... but are there any other issues heavier transmission oil can cause? Would a synthetic oil have any negative effect on the transmission? Can different oil additives impact anything inside the box? | | | 06-26-2014, 08:12 PM | #17 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,451 | Quote: Originally Posted by AnuketTi This is interesting as I was considering using something thicker in the tranny as I figured thicker would mean smoother shifting and less wear and tear at operating temperatures. I can see how it might make for stiff or sluggish gear shifts when cold... but are there any other issues heavier transmission oil can cause? Would a synthetic oil have any negative effect on the transmission? Can different oil additives impact anything inside the box? | What I have experienced is that with BMW fluid in my 5 series trannies, I had reverse gear shifting issues when cold. With Redline, those issues disappeared and felt smoother. Out of satisfaction there, I carried that over to other manuals. I haven't ruined a tranny yet, and one of them was still running strong at 432k miles. __________________ 1998 318ti Sport - "Cali" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, Cali top 1998 318ti Sport - "Max" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, S52 1997 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior 1995 318ti Active - "Blanca" Alpineweib III/Schwartz leather interior Other Current Bimmers: 2006 530i / 2000 2.3L Z3 / 1997 1.9L Z3 / 1999 540it 1997 318ti Sport - "Huera" - RIP 1995 318ti Active - RIP 1995 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Sold 1994 325i Sedan - "Jade" - Sold 1991 318ic - "Bert" - Sold 1985 635csi sold 1984 533i "Max" Sold 1984 318i sold BMWCCA #160411 SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | 06-26-2014, 08:19 PM | #18 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 135 | Quote: Originally Posted by BlackBMWs What I have experienced is that with BMW fluid in my 5 series trannies, I had reverse gear shifting issues when cold. With Redline, those issues disappeared and felt smoother. Out of satisfaction there, I carried that over to other manuals. I haven't ruined a tranny yet, and one of them was still running strong at 432k miles. | Would I be right in saying there are no electrical components inside the manual transmissions on these cars? If that is the case, other than potential cold shifting issues I can't imagine what other detrimental effect a thicker oil / lubricant would have on the transmission. On another Note: Apart from keeping the car level and having a pump handy, are there any other procedures or tips to refilling the manual transmissions? I would like to flush it out, but don't have the appropriate pump to do this... so it looks like it will be a drain and fill process for me. | | | 06-26-2014, 08:41 PM | #19 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,451 | While there may be better methods, I just get the car level on stands and use a Harbor Freight hand pump to fill quickly. I used the little bottle pumps, but heck. two strokes and your done to me beats pumping many time with the little bottle pumps. Next time the Norcal crowd meets, maybe we can organize a tech maintenance day where we address simple maintenance points like this. and BBQ. __________________ 1998 318ti Sport - "Cali" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, Cali top 1998 318ti Sport - "Max" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, S52 1997 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior 1995 318ti Active - "Blanca" Alpineweib III/Schwartz leather interior Other Current Bimmers: 2006 530i / 2000 2.3L Z3 / 1997 1.9L Z3 / 1999 540it 1997 318ti Sport - "Huera" - RIP 1995 318ti Active - RIP 1995 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Sold 1994 325i Sedan - "Jade" - Sold 1991 318ic - "Bert" - Sold 1985 635csi sold 1984 533i "Max" Sold 1984 318i sold BMWCCA #160411 SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | 06-27-2014, 07:59 AM | #20 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Greeley CO Posts: 233 | Quote: Originally Posted by AnuketTi Would I be right in saying there are no electrical components inside the manual transmissions on these cars? | You would be right. I've been using Redline D4 for two years now. I started using it after a partial rebuild of the gearbox, so I can't really say whether it improved shifting or not. It is interesting that the folks at Metric Mechanic recommend plain old ATF for best shifting. | | | 06-27-2014, 03:22 PM | #21 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 595 | Quote: Originally Posted by AnuketTi Would I be right in saying there are no electrical components inside the manual transmissions on these cars? If that is the case, other than potential cold shifting issues I can't imagine what other detrimental effect a thicker oil / lubricant would have on the transmission. . | there is one electrical switch for the reverse light but it is sitting on top and rides on the reverse shift rod. it's sealed so no worries. If you are in CA, where weather is nice and don't get a lot of below freezing temps, cold shifting may not be a problem with heavier gear oil. But be ready to switch immediately to ATF if you notice some notchy shifting or grinding to prevent synchro wear. __________________ 1996 Ti 280k miles and still going.... 1993 964 - holding on to this one 2001 Burban, 240k miles 2018 Suburban Z71 | | | 06-27-2014, 04:32 PM | #22 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 135 | Quote: Originally Posted by paul somlo You would be right. I've been using Redline D4 for two years now. I started using it after a partial rebuild of the gearbox, so I can't really say whether it improved shifting or not. It is interesting that the folks at Metric Mechanic recommend plain old ATF for best shifting. | Cool! Thanks! I was checking on the Redline D4, it almost sounds like the MMO or Snake Oil of transmissions... LOL! It is for just about all automatics and manual transmission across a broad range of brands and models. Does this mean there is a fair amount of BS from manufactures asking customers to use a specific OEM oil only? I might try the D4 since I can acquire it for a good price or another more advanced Synthetic.... and maybe slightly heavier. Quote: Originally Posted by bazar01 there is one electrical switch for the reverse light but it is sitting on top and rides on the reverse shift rod. it's sealed so no worries. If you are in CA, where weather is nice and don't get a lot of below freezing temps, cold shifting may not be a problem with heavier gear oil. But be ready to switch immediately to ATF if you notice some notchy shifting or grinding to prevent synchro wear. | Thank You. Good to know. I am indeed in CA and in the Bay Area, we get cool weather but never freezing type weather. I think for now, I am going to stick with an advance ATF, probably a synthetic. By the way, does anyone know if I have to flush all the old oil out or can I just drain and refill? I wondering if there is a risk of incompatibility with the existing oil. Maybe do multiple changes over the course of 500 miles? | | | 06-28-2014, 05:09 AM | #23 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 1,364 | Quote: Originally Posted by AnuketTi Considering the advance of oil technology, I'm going to look for a synthetic ATF to use to flush and refill the tranny. Not sure how to flush it on jack stands though. | An alternative to flushing would be to drain and fill now, then drain and fill again in 5000 miles or so. John | | | 06-28-2014, 06:16 AM | #24 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 135 | Quote: Originally Posted by jca An alternative to flushing would be to drain and fill now, then drain and fill again in 5000 miles or so. John | My primary concern is the compatibility of the oil I put in and what might be in there right now. It looks Red, so I would assume it is ATF of some sort. I am thinking of replacing with a synthetic ATF, or something like Dexron Synthetic. | | | 06-29-2014, 12:01 AM | #25 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,464 | Quote: Originally Posted by AnuketTi My primary concern is the compatibility of the oil I put in and what might be in there right now. It looks Red, so I would assume it is ATF of some sort. I am thinking of replacing with a synthetic ATF, or something like Dexron Synthetic. | If you let the gearbox drain completely (on a level surface), there is not going to be enough residual oil in there to be problematic if you refill with ATF. While BMW does recommend ATF for these gearboxes, I know people that have used standard gear oil (GL-4 only!) with no problems. On some gearboxes (e.g Borg Warner WC-T5) it is critical to use ATF because of lined friction surfaces on the synchros. I've used Redline D4 ATF in both of my ti's gearboxes with no problems. Shifts like butter! __________________ 1995 318ti Base - Cosmosschwarz/Sandgrau R.I.P. 1997 318ti Active - Alpinweiß III/Sandgrau 2013 328i Coupe - Le Mans Blau Last edited by zoner; 06-29-2014 at 12:03 AM. | | | 06-29-2014, 06:55 AM | #26 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 135 | Quote: Originally Posted by zoner If you let the gearbox drain completely (on a level surface), there is not going to be enough residual oil in there to be problematic if you refill with ATF. While BMW does recommend ATF for these gearboxes, I know people that have used standard gear oil (GL-4 only!) with no problems. On some gearboxes (e.g Borg Warner WC-T5) it is critical to use ATF because of lined friction surfaces on the synchros. I've used Redline D4 ATF in both of my ti's gearboxes with no problems. Shifts like butter! | There is a sticker on the side of my transmission that says ATF.. | | | 06-29-2014, 07:59 PM | #27 | Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: MEDINA, Wa. Posts: 46 | This is one of the subjects that I came here looking for information on - Great Thread --- | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |