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Old 11-15-2004, 01:49 AM   #31
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Old 11-15-2004, 02:14 AM   #32
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It's touring international (Why international...who knows?) and goe's back to the 2002ti which was a hatchback like our cars and never officially imported into the States but there are a couple around. Now why is the 2002tii, which is not a hatchback...a tii, other than the fact it is injected?
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Old 11-15-2004, 05:14 AM   #33
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I disagree.

I think ti stands for:

'T'win cam, 'I'njection

E stands for 'E'comony,

and M stands for 'M'otorsport
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oh yeah...and the states!

...and england...

...but not canada. definitely not canada.

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Old 11-15-2004, 03:17 PM   #36
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Old 11-15-2004, 03:19 PM   #37
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I disagree.

I think ti stands for:

'T'win cam, 'I'njection

E stands for 'E'comony,

and M stands for 'M'otorsport
i agree with 2 out of your 3. but not the ti one.

what kinda sources do you have for your hypothesis? maybe you could convince me to join you on your 'dark side' over there.
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Old 11-15-2004, 07:06 PM   #38
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It makes more sense that Touring International.

No one would ever consider the 318ti a touring car whether national or international. A fantastic city or local runaround, no question, but not a long distance tourer. Of course it will do it. It will do all that is asked of it, but not at ease.

If you wanted a touring car you would surely buy the bigger, more solid, 5 or 7 series with a big lazy 6 cylinder. My 525i ('i' as in injection rather than 'i' as in international or 'e' as in economy) is a grand touring car, cruising all day long at 80 mph at 3000 rpm.

If we were talking about any other car and it was a 'ti' we would all say it is 'turbo injection' like that Land-Rover TDI: Turbo Diesel Injection. So, if we can accept that the 'i' stands for injection as 525i or TDI then 'touring injection' makes no sense at all but 'twin', as in twin cam, 'injection' does.

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if the t stands for Twin Cam, then why don't all the other bimmers with DOHC have the t in the name?
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I can't answer that.

I am not exactly sure of this, and I feel I am getting out of my depth, but I think the M44 was developed from another engine which was only single cam. So when the M44 was put in the 318 the 't' was added to show a difference between engines.

As I say, I am unsure of the history so please, please excuse me if this is not the case.

I am not an authority on it; just stating it as I understand it. But, don't you agree that 'twin injection' makes more sense than 'touring international'?
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I am not an authority on it; just stating it as I understand it. But, don't you agree that 'twin injection' makes more sense than 'touring international'?
you have to remember also. it's a german car. what makes perfect sense to you in english may not be what the good ol' germans intended.

and nope. i will not join your dark side. haha.
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Old 11-16-2004, 11:10 AM   #43
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I was going to suggest that but didn't want to upset the Germans.

Of course, if you are considering the German language TI could stand for almost anything but we must remember that, although most TLA stand for something, it is not axiomatic that they must stand for something or even make sense.

Much has been written that TI stands for Touring International but I question this as I think it is just a myth that has been rehashed so many times that it has almost become folklore and therefore believed.

I am not stating as fact that TI stands for Twin Injection, but I am certainly questioning that it stands for Touring International. I don't accept that.
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I think the "T" stands for Compact! It is the last letter of the word...Hmmm just a guess. So the "I" stands for fuel injected...I thought it stood for inline....
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here we go. straight from the source.

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Dear Mr Thevis,

Thank you for your e-mail.

The abbreviation <ti> stands for <Tourismo Internationale>, and is a
tribute to older BMW models from the sixties (e.g BMW 2002ti).

Kind Regards,
BMW Customer Service Team
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haha. did anyone even say "tourismo"? but yeah. that's what it is.
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