» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | 05-09-2008, 06:35 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: çî˙ řf ĺNgëL§, CA Posts: 5,314 | I wanted to get a short shifter. IIRC, the Z3 shifter is 30% less throw than the stock Ti one right? Would this fit right in without modifications? Do you guys think this is a good kit? Will anything else need to be purchased? Anybody else has this shifter, if so how do you like it? Thanks. For those also looking for a short shifter, here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-e...spagenameZWD1V | | | 05-09-2008, 06:53 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 6,182 | i do think thats all you need. if i remember correctly its a good idea to bend the selector rod to get it all centered and perfect but that maybe for a different shifter __________________ -Josh Sold-1995 318ti, Club Sport, Hellrot Sold-1996 318ti, Active Model, Boston Green Current- 1995 318ti, sport model, schwartz | | | 05-09-2008, 07:36 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 189 | i just put my z3 shift rod in about 2 weeks ago. That kit includes everything you need. I dont know if those are cir clips in the pic though. If they are then your fine if not your going to need one. I think it was 30 cents from the dealer. Also, i paid 60 all together for my kit. 40 for the rod and 20 for all of the other bushings and such. If you dont mind spending 140 I would say go for it. but you could piece it together for a lot less. Try calling bmw and asking them how much everything is, it might be cheaper. this link should help with part numbers. http://www.318ti.org/forum/archive/i...hp/t-2331.html This link has some good pics and instruction. You dont need to take out the entire selecting rod. That is only if you want to bend it which I didnt do and it works great. http://understeer.com/shiftlever.shtml | | | 05-09-2008, 09:18 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 133 | I'm looking for B&M short shifter. Any comparison between B&M and Z3? | | | 05-09-2008, 10:18 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 | I installed the MZ3 shifter. Total parts from the dealer was under $100.00, that included the selector rod. If you choose not to bend the shifter, you will have to bend the selector rod. One bend is to clear the driveshaft, the other to center the knob. Quote: Originally Posted by HuGo I wanted to get a short shifter. IIRC, the Z3 shifter is 30% less throw than the stock Ti one right? Would this fit right in without modifications? Do you guys think this is a good kit? Will anything else need to be purchased? Anybody else has this shifter, if so how do you like it? Thanks. For those also looking for a short shifter, here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-e...spagenameZWD1V | __________________ 1998 (July) 318ti, 5-spd OEM Armrest Blaupunkt Heidelberg CD50 CD Player/Compact Drive MP3 Player Diamond Audio 5.25" rear speakers Navman ICN 530 GPS BMWALARM.COM (with comfort settings) after market alarm system Magnecor 8.5mm wires M-Z3 Shifter/Momo Knob Burlwood Dashboard Stromung Exhaust X-brace Racing Dynamics Front Strut Bar Carbonio C.A.I. 17" Rial Rims Vader Seats/Heated/Lumbar Support M-tech Steering Wheel/Front Sway Bar/Front & Rear Bumper Depos/w 6500K Angel Eyes/6000K HIDs Clear Corners M3 Mirrors UUC Light Weight Flywheel/M5 Clutch/M3 Clutch Slave E28 3.46 LSD/Mcoupe Cover/E30 Flanges & Halfshafts UUC S.S. 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The shifter will be perfectly centered, and the selector rod will clear the drive shaft. You'll reduce the shifter travel by 30% which is nice, but not dramatic. Now, if you go with the MZ3 shifter, then you have to bend the selector rod and the shifter. Buy the selector from www.understeer.com and the shifter will come bended. You'll just have to bend the selector yourself. Not too difficult (see Ron Stygar's web page on how to do this). This will yield 40% reduction in shifter travel. Good luck. __________________ 1998 Hellrot sport 318ti 2005 Jet Black 545i SMG 2006 Honda Odyssey (for kids and wives) | | | 05-09-2008, 10:40 PM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: çî˙ řf ĺNgëL§, CA Posts: 5,314 | Ill be good with the basic z3. I shifted quick enough with the stock ti one. | | | 05-09-2008, 10:45 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: çî˙ řf ĺNgëL§, CA Posts: 5,314 | If this is all i need (please make correction if more stuff are needed) 25 11 1 434 148 Shift Lever (Z3 1.9) 25 11 1 220 600 Suspension (nylon cup) 25 11 1 220 379 Circlip 25 11 1 220 439 Spacer Ring (2) then the total comes out to 73.87 Hell of a lot better than 140 | | | 05-09-2008, 11:01 PM | #10 | Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: SoCal318ti Posts: 1,574 | Quote: Originally Posted by HuGo If this is all i need (please make correction if more stuff are needed) 25 11 1 434 148 Shift Lever (Z3 1.9) 25 11 1 220 600 Suspension (nylon cup) 25 11 1 220 379 Circlip 25 11 1 220 439 Spacer Ring (2) then the total comes out to 73.87 Hell of a lot better than 140 | And if this does not work BMA has a kit for $85, dont know if its a good one though. | | | 05-09-2008, 11:16 PM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 189 | Quote: Originally Posted by HuGo If this is all i need (please make correction if more stuff are needed) 25 11 1 434 148 Shift Lever (Z3 1.9) 25 11 1 220 600 Suspension (nylon cup) 25 11 1 220 379 Circlip 25 11 1 220 439 Spacer Ring (2) then the total comes out to 73.87 Hell of a lot better than 140 | Those are the only things you need. Might be a good idea to get an extra cir clip. and some good grease. | | | 05-09-2008, 11:18 PM | #12 | Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 55 | Quote: Originally Posted by HuGo If this is all i need (please make correction if more stuff are needed) 25 11 1 434 148 Shift Lever (Z3 1.9) 25 11 1 220 600 Suspension (nylon cup) 25 11 1 220 379 Circlip 25 11 1 220 439 Spacer Ring (2) then the total comes out to 73.87 Hell of a lot better than 140 | The spacer ring is now integrated into the shifter itself. I ordered them but didn't have to use them. As a matter of fact, I couldn't use them. __________________ 1998 Hellrot sport 318ti 2005 Jet Black 545i SMG 2006 Honda Odyssey (for kids and wives) | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |