Failed Inspection because of Fog lights

[ssprint]

I bought the car with Fog Lite on it and it is connected to the headlight switch.I failed my inspection because my Fog Lights doesn't shut off when you turn on the high beam. Is there a way to shut it off without a seperating switch from the head light switch when you turn the high beam on?

[DustenT]

Originally Posted by ssprint

I bought the car with Fog Lite on it and it is connected to the headlight switch.I failed my inspection because my Fog Lights doesn't shut off when you turn on the high beam. Is there a way to turn it off without a seperating switch from the head light switch when you turn the high beam on?

Pull the fuse for the fog lights, go get retested. When you get home after passing the inspection, just put the fuse back in.

[ssprint]

That was my plan but i was thinking if there's another way hooking up the fag directly to the low beam otherwise i have to install a switch. I'm also thinking of buying an aftermarket headlight the stocks are not that really good even though i install 100w bulb on low beam.

[bullmand]

Are these the factory fog lights? I'm assuming not since those don't come on with the high beam.

[Panzer_M]

That is the gayest thing I heard, Foglights don't turn off...duh they're hardwired.

Thank GOD for Florida.

[ssprint]

Originally Posted by bullmand

Are these the factory fog lights? I'm assuming not since those don't come on with the high beam.

they are oem fog lites connected to the headlight switch. when turning the headlight the fog lites are on too but it doesn't turn off when your turn on your high beam.

[ssprint]

Originally Posted by Panzer_M

That is the gayest thing I heard, Foglights don't turn off...duh they're hardwired.

Thank GOD for Florida.

funny i should edit it and change it to shut the off. hahah but i know i'm not gay.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by ssprint

they are oem fog lites connected to the headlight switch. when turning the headlight the fog lites are on too but it doesn't turn off when your turn on your high beam.

What year is your ti? I have a 98 and have oem foglights and they shut off when high beams are on and i also have a foglight button to the right of the instrument cluster.

[ssprint]

it's a 5/95.

[Tyler]

Does anyone else with a 95 have this problem with the fogs/high beams??

[Phil Marx]

At least in my state, you can't remove the fuse because any lamp has to illuminate properly. Now you can remove the bulb and wiring and then they simply become ornaments and will pass. Easy to just take out the entire lens and bulb holder, get it inspected, then put them back, if you can't figure out how to rewire it properly. They've obviously got them taking power from the parking lights (are they on w/parking lights and not headlights, too?), and need to take power from the low beams only. You'd fail in my state because the maximum number of lights on at one time I think is four.

[Budget M3]

Originally Posted by Tyler

What year is your ti? I have a 98 and have oem foglights and they shut off when high beams are on and i also have a foglight button to the right of the instrument cluster.

This is proper OEM operation of the fog lights...they should turn off when the high beams are switched on. The fog lights are for FOG. If you are actually driving in fog, you shouldn't be using your high beams anyway as they will reflect off the fog and actually DECREASE visibility. If you are NOT driving in fog and need your highbeams to safely illuminate the road, your fog lights will be useless except to blind and annoy oncoming traffic. Most states I have lived in that require safety inspections (ME, VA, NH, MA, CO) only recognize proper OEM operation such as this, and will fail you if yours work any differently.

IIRC, there is a relay (in the fusebox, I think) that controls proper operation of the foglights. Not sure what they cost, but it can't be too expensive to replace a relay and get back to "legal" operation...

[John Firestone]

In Europe, the foglights stay on when you switch on the high beams. This is required by law and also sometimes useful.

For U.S. cars, BMW NA had Munich wire one side of the foglight relay to the high beams instead of ground. That side then sees ground through the high beams when they are off and +12V from the high beam relay when the they are on. The foglight switch applies +12V to the other side which picks the relay when the high beams are off (ground on one side; +12V on the other) and drops out the relay when the high beams go on (both sides are then at +12V).

A convenient way to make the relay mimic the U.S. or European behavoir is to tie the non-switch side of the relay coil to the high beams through a diode, with the band side of the diode toward the high beams. Then, to make the relay stay on with the high beams, you simply ground that side of the relay through a lug or switch. To make them go off, you unground it: either by unbolting your lug from its ground point and insulating it, or by flipping your switch. I would use solder and heat shrink on the diode as you probably don't want to accidently ground the high beams.

[kelso]

my girls fogs shut off when she turns her highs on and i dont understand why...my fogs have a button to turn them on or off but they stay on with my highs and its super bright and easy to see at night, why woul dyou ever want it darker? the more lights the better! florida FTW

[ssprint]

Originally Posted by kelso

my girls fogs shut off when she turns her highs on and i dont understand why...my fogs have a button to turn them on or off but they stay on with my highs and its super bright and easy to see at night, why woul dyou ever want it darker? the more lights the better! florida FTW

i don't like it to be dark but i failed my inspection.