» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | | | | | | | 06-07-2008, 02:46 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 1,625 | FCUK BavAuto! rant holly crap, I do not remember being this disappointed, like ever! just about a couple years ago I purchased Bavarian Autosport springs & Billstein shocks for my car - and have had them on since then. Though it looks ok (lowered & all), I always thought the ride generally sucked.. too soft & 'wavy' on some occasions & bottoming out harshly over potholes on other occasions - but I just attributed it to BMWs being tempermental when it came to aftermarket parts (having owned a WV Gti before). anyway, out of boredom, I called Bav Auto today just to find what other suspension set ups they have for sale (as I'm contemplating coils) - and while on the phone with some clown I asked if their Bav Auto springs are PROGRESSIVE RATE (which is really a 101 of ANY suspension upgrades - and basically a MUST for lowered vehicles). Well, guess what, they are NOT! And why, well 'I dont know' says the expert technical advisor, 'thats just how they come from the factory'?! WTF? How the fcuk do you sell non-progressive rate performance LOWERING springs & get away with it?? F-ing TOOLS! FCUK Bav Auto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bunch of amateurs... Silver linning - now, after 2 years of a s*it ride (mostly due to my my pre-assumtion that ALL lowering 'performance' springs are progressive rate - VWs spoiled me) - I FINALLY know why my car fels like S*IT. DON'T BUY Bavarian Autosport springs for your ti (or anything else, if you can help it)! end of rant... | | | 06-07-2008, 03:31 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lincoln Park Capitol Hill, Washington DC Posts: 741 | Made in Taiwan Unfortunately, they are generic "sport/lowering" springs outsourced from Taiwan. I worked at Racing Dynamics and saw the shipments came in and they repainted them to match RD colors. Bavauto also sources some of their products from the same manufacturer in Taiwan..........so..... When it comes to parts like that, I always try to spend the extra $$ for well known brands. Sorry to hear about your suspension issues. I also cheaped out in the beginning and ended up spending more. I have H&R sport springs and currently Konis up front and Bils in the back. Originally, I got KYB shocks all around............they sucked and the rears blew after 6 months, so spent more on Konis and Bils afterwards. __________________ It's always a great day to be underwater and play with the fish.....preserve our oceans and reefs" Fariz 1997 318ti, Hellrot (Bright Red), Dinan Stage 2 Chip 16x7 OEM sport Wheels/X-Brace/Custom Strut Brace/Cold Air Intake/M-Tec Steering Wheel/Koni Adjustable FrontShocks/ Bilstein Sport Rear Shocks /H&R Sport Springs/Custom fabricated strut tower brace/Rear Strut brace, Stromung Exhaust Future Mods: E46 17" wheels or Kosei K-1 17x8.5s | | | 06-07-2008, 03:49 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,525 | Progressive rate springs are usually used on street cars. True performance springs are not progressive rate. Progressive rate springs give a better ride, not better handling. Linear springs give better/more consistent handling, but may not be the best choice for a daily driver. Of course, cheap linear springs are not going to be as good as a properly engineered suspension using good linear rate springs(vogtland, penske, H&R.) You can easily look at the springs and tell if they are progressive as the distance between the coils will change.. These fronts are progressive rates springs- These fronts do not look like progressive rate springs- The most important thing about a suspension is that it must all work together as a system. For that reason I would recommend buying from a vendor that really knows what they are doing with suspensions. For our cars, that is ground control, or TcKline. These are tckline, linear rate springs(made by vogtland.) | | | 06-07-2008, 04:08 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,587 | When I first bought my I made a couple purchases from BAVAUTO. I was unhappy with them from the start and never went back. They sell a lot of cheap crap and their prices aren't very good either. I strictly buy from PelicanParts, AutohausAZ, and TischerBMW, although that's for replacement parts not "upgrades" | | | 06-07-2008, 04:09 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 305 | Quote: Originally Posted by marko ... VWs spoiled me ... | Amen to that! __________________ | | | 06-07-2008, 04:29 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 1,625 | point taken - you live & you learn, I guess... [QUOTE=mohaughn;177714]The most important thing about a suspension is that it must all work together as a system. For that reason I would recommend buying from a vendor that really knows what they are doing with suspensions. For our cars, that is ground control, or TcKline. [QUOTE] | | | 06-07-2008, 05:22 PM | #7 | Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,220 | I'm glad this thread popped up. I'm looking for some suspension tips, I need new stuff BADLY. Car still can takes turns at 80 though 8D | | | 06-07-2008, 09:02 PM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 6,182 | quality products usually cost a it more but really its worth it sometimes! __________________ -Josh Sold-1995 318ti, Club Sport, Hellrot Sold-1996 318ti, Active Model, Boston Green Current- 1995 318ti, sport model, schwartz | | | 06-07-2008, 09:40 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: state college, pa Posts: 3,431 | Nearly without exception, it will be cheaper to do it right the first time. I've not had the best experience with BavAuto either. I know one of the guys is a ti owner (and maybe he's on these boards) but I found his tone both condescending and elitist. Half the reason I buy from a vendor is for their experience and know-how; if I have to fight to get it, or take some snippy tone while receiving that information, I'm taking my money elsewhere. __________________ I scream, you scream, we all scream for ZOMBIES. | | | 06-07-2008, 09:48 PM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 | I've actually never had any problems with bavauto either of the times I went down there, I thought the guys behind the counter were pretty polite and helpful, maybe I just got lucky? | | | 06-07-2008, 10:15 PM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: maritimes Posts: 1,433 | Marko will get you yet bavauto! on a side note, Hey Fariz (weezer) - Long time no see dude. __________________ 11/97 Base 328Ti | | | 06-07-2008, 10:27 PM | #12 | Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,220 | Quote: Originally Posted by tiFreak I've actually never had any problems with bavauto either of the times I went down there, I thought the guys behind the counter were pretty polite and helpful, maybe I just got lucky? | Maybe your wife is sexy as heck | | | 06-08-2008, 12:51 AM | #13 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: maritimes Posts: 1,433 | Pauly doesn't have enough money to buy a wife just yet... russianbrides.com - theres some cheap ones on there for ya buddy, as long as you don't mind a little upper lip hair .... beggers can't be choosers. __________________ 11/97 Base 328Ti | | | 06-08-2008, 01:49 AM | #14 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 | Quote: Originally Posted by Philly russianbrides.com | holy crap! it's a real site! oooh... Natalia, I like her | | | 06-08-2008, 01:54 AM | #15 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 | I boycotted BavAuto when they started selling a breath analyzer. __________________ ...steven BMW CCA #146825 1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i www.bmwcca.org | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Thread Tools | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |