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Old 01-02-2010, 06:57 AM   #1
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Default suspension questions

got a few, I searched but couldn't find any answers

1. does anyone have the TC Kline Sporting kit? how is it on the street? my car will be primarily a daily with occasional track use. what kind of drop does it give?

2. what is the part number for the E46 M3 convertible RSMs? is it just #7 in this diagram or are there more parts? http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...41&hg=33&fg=45

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H&R/ KONI (rear externally adjustable compression style shock)

Well that kit is essentially a set of Konis with H&R sport springs which is exactly the setup I had on one of my TIs for quite some time. The drop is fairly moderate and the ride comfort varies (depending on road on conditions). I would stay this would be ideal for a dual purpose track/street car. The adjustability allows you fairly good amount of stiffness for the track but also allows you to drive the car across the country with a fairly comfortable ride.

Here are some pics of the kit:




Note that the red car has 255/40/17 tire all round and the black car has 245/40/17 rear and 225 front. The lower profile tires (black car) certainly gives the vehicle a different stance.

My sig picture is the same H&R/Koni setup (full stiff) at the autoX no sway bar in the rear and a huge 28mm swaybar up front.

If you like the ride height I would only suggest upgrading to 94-02 mustang rear shocks. They are externally adjustable from the top (no need to unbolt and compress the rears to adjust) and they are a bit stiffer.

Manufacturer Part #: 8041-1186SPORT

You will need a 12mm rear shock mount which TC Kline offers or bimmerworld (I have the bimmerworld ones)

H&R Bilstein sports

I had this setup on my wife's 318ti (my current daily driver) and it's awesome on the street. Very composed and great on the highway; well dampened (less jarring when compared the Konis on the softest settings). If the ride height was a bit higher (maybe 3/4 of a inch) it would be perfect for the street and occasional spirited driving. It was also very predictable on the track but a bit softer when compared to the Konis.







Tires are 225/50/16
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:40 PM   #3
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great post, the stance on the black car is what I'm looking for so I think I'll go with that kit (and try to find some 17"s )

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If you like the ride height I would only suggest upgrading to 94-02 mustang rear shocks. They are externally adjustable from the top (no need to unbolt and compress the rears to adjust) and they are a bit stiffer.

Manufacturer Part #: 8041-1186SPORT
Ford parts on a BMW? blasphemy! I'll most likely just order the kit and use the shocks in it but I'll keep your suggestion in mind if I decide to change them later for the adjustablity

which rear shock mounts are you referring too? Bimmer World has 3 listed, but BWSport is the only one that specifies 12mm, just looking to clarify that those were the ones you meant
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great post, the stance on the black car is what I'm looking for so I think I'll go with that kit (and try to find some 17"s )



Ford parts on a BMW? blasphemy! I'll most likely just order the kit and use the shocks in it but I'll keep your suggestion in mind if I decide to change them later for the adjustablity

which rear shock mounts are you referring too? Bimmer World has 3 listed, but BWSport is the only one that specifies 12mm, just looking to clarify that those were the ones you meant

BWSport are the one and the ford shocks actually come in the TC Kline SA kit they just don't advertise it.
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thanks, now to spend all my Christmas money
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You could buy teh BMW part numbers pay mmore and get the same shock if it makes ya feel better about it being "BMW?

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Are you about to buy the TC Kline kit? You could probably piece it together for less.


Tirerack has the kit for $889.00 but I thought they were having a 10% off sale.
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I don't see it on Tire Rack but BW sells it for $839.99
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Also call Shox.com to get their TI prices.
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If you like the ride height I would only suggest upgrading to 94-02 mustang rear shocks. They are externally adjustable from the top (no need to unbolt and compress the rears to adjust) and they are a bit stiffer.

Manufacturer Part #: 8041-1186SPORT

You will need a 12mm rear shock mount which TC Kline offers or bimmerworld (I have the bimmerworld ones)
Are they the same compressed/extended lengths? This is a cool find if so.
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TC Kline says they no longer start with a SN 95 chassis rear shock for the E30/Ti rear kit. I have had this set up years ago in my E30 with their initial DA front for the E30.

They were great but damn they were expensive, also Koni did not honor modified units with a lift warranty as they say they are for race purpose.
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Are they the same compressed/extended lengths? This is a cool find if so.
It has been known for years that these shocks fit and as far as I know the lengths are the same.

I just bought the SA kit and the rear shocks were labeled with the PN listed above.
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so do the bilsteins feel better than konis on the street? i live in new orleans so they streets are pretty bad, dont want the car to be bouncing everywhere ive heard people saying they were too stiff, but the above post says they were great?
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glad i came across this thread. i was just about to order a set of koni's. i would have been very mad to find out i had to disassemble the car everytime i wanted to adjust the rear shocks.

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glad i came across this thread. i was just about to order a set of koni's. i would have been very mad to find out i had to disassemble the car everytime i wanted to adjust the rear shocks.

thanks dahamler!

I will say, it's very easy to do. I don't even have to jack up the car. Maybe takes an hour to adjust both, and that's with me moving slowly.
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