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Old 03-13-2010, 06:17 PM   #1
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so i've just acquired a new set of stock TI front rotors and thought i might as well get new rears, too. so my question is, are there any aftermarket calipers out there that i could stick on the fronts and rears to get better performance? is there anything else i should be doing while im doing this swap?

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What performance are you looking for?
Not much you can do with the rear unless you do some serious swapping.
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something better then stock, i suppose. i was going to upgrade to vented fronts but then i came upon these from a member and thought i would see if there were aftermarket calipers that perform better then stock
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something better then stock, i suppose. i was going to upgrade to vented fronts but then i came upon these from a member and thought i would see if there were aftermarket calipers that perform better then stock
I really need to ask, what make you think aftermarket are better?
Vented rotors are more than adequate slowing me down from 110 to make a turn at the track.

I really think stopping performance primarily comes from tires and brake pads.
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because i'm 16 and haven't had this car for a while. also, i dont really have alot of money and i got these fronts for free, so do you think i should just get new oem calipers with good pads? any recommendations?
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because i'm 16 and haven't had this car for a while. also, i dont really have alot of money and i got these fronts for free, so do you think i should just get new oem calipers with good pads? any recommendations?
What calipers are you getting for free?
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no calipers, just front rotors, solids
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no calipers, just front rotors, solids
Unless the rotors are new, I don't know if I would use them.
Mixing different brake pad compounds could cause deposits on your rotors.
Aftermarket calipers may require different brackets and rotors.

For pads, I liked Ultimate Axxis for the street.
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Hey Mitch, yeah unfortunately I don't know of any aftermarket calipers that will fit our stock rotors. The main reason being that our rotors are solid instead of vented. Most aftermarket companies make big brake kits for our cars, but all of them involve upgrading rotors as well. The best bang for your buck though as mentioned before would be good pads and tires. You'll also notice a big difference if you flush and fill with new brake fluid. Another relatively inexpensive upgrade would be installing steel braided brake lines. However if you do upgrade brake hoses, there's a very good chance that you'll strip out the fittings on the hard lines, so have someone who knows what they're doing available. And finally, I'm sure you've already stumbled across it here on the forum, but you can always upgrade your front brakes to 325/328 vented rotors/calipers/carriers or M3 rotors/calipers/carriers/spindles. They're still a single piston design and since they're OEM parts, pads are always available and relatively inexpensive. There's not much you can do to the rears unless you want to have custom brackets fabricated or purchase a big brake kit, but I've never seen a BBK offered for the Ti's rear and you definitely don't want to upgrade the rear unless your front has already been upgraded. The big thing to consider when upgrading to multi-piston brakes is your car's brake bias.

Anyway, since you already scored on a set of stock rotors, just go from there. New pads, fluid and perhaps some SS brake lines. Best of luck to ya.

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Rotors were brand new, he got them from me. I got them with my car, needed vented, not solid. Calipers are not that hard to rebuild? Probably your cheapest option and stay with the stock setup, next time around maybe go with the vented setup?
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but I've never seen a BBK offered for the Ti's rear
Massive Brakes has a set, it's $1500 though so I doubt you'd be able to afford them, plus they'd screw up your brake bias really badly
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Everyone rants and raves about brake bias, you can fix that with valves, master cylinders, and/or pads.
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Everyone rants and raves about brake bias, you can fix that with valves, master cylinders, and/or pads.
true, but stock fronts and 4-piston rears is a little off
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best upgrade is 325/328 brakes for the front, u dont really need to upgrade the rears.
but if your looking for something better u can get 4 piston calipers in the front too and use the same 328 rotors or go with m3 rotors/spindles and aftermarket caliper or go all out and go with bbk in the front
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325/8 rotors and calipers are the same as post 04/98 ti rotors and calipers. That rotor is too small for most 4pot pads, so upgrading to m3 spec is usually the best option if going that route.

A true bbk comes with everything you need, usually in the correct proportion if buying a high quality, spec built setup.
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