» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | My 318ti build 05-21-2024 04:48 PM 05-21-2024 04:48 PM 0 Replies, 728 Views | | | | | 12-10-2013, 04:38 PM | #1 | Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: OBX NC Posts: 40 | Advice for higher gearing My compact drivetrain is currently S52, ZF and e30 4.10 LSD. I'm looking to go to a higher ratio rear end. The 4.10 is useless on the highway, turning 4000 at 80mph and drinking gas quickly. Also there is a bit of a rear end whine. I don't know how bad that is, but I know it can't be a good thing. I would like to go to a ratio in the 3.00-3.50 range and I would like to maintain my LSD. From what it looks like my best option is to find a Z3 diff. The charts I keep finding online don't show many good LSD ratios for the mid-case e30. Is this correct? So far this is my list of cars to look for in junkyards. Anything else? Would it be hard to find a quality diff in that age range on the e30 or should I just start looking for z3 equipment? So my donor choices would be: 325es 3.23 post 1986 325is 3.46 pre 1986 Z3 2.8 3.15 Z3 ?.? 3.46 | | | 12-10-2013, 05:33 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 | I can tell you my M52 revs pretty high with a 3.46. __________________ ...steven BMW CCA #146825 1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i www.bmwcca.org | | | 12-10-2013, 06:03 PM | #3 | Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: OBX NC Posts: 40 | Upon some research, I was mistaken in calling mine a 4.10, it's actually a 3.73. That's scary. Playing with a gear ratio calculator I'd like to go for a 3.23, 3.15 or similar in LSD. | | | 12-10-2013, 06:07 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 | Quote: Originally Posted by buzzboy Upon some research, I was mistaken in calling mine a 4.10, it's actually a 3.73. That's scary. Playing with a gear ratio calculator I'd like to go for a 3.23, 3.15 or similar in LSD. | Those are saner ratios. My 3.46 is OK on track, but not on the highway. Especially with a loud exhaust. __________________ ...steven BMW CCA #146825 1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i www.bmwcca.org | | | 12-11-2013, 12:33 AM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | Ive run 4.10 for a couple years, hadnt noticed a difference in mpg. Just get on craigslist or some local forums and look for an open 3.25, 3.46, or 2.93. 2.93-3.25 are normal e36 and z3 ratios that are harder to come by on the cheap. An open 3.25 goes for about 75$ and you just move the LS over and swap ring gears. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 12-11-2013, 04:52 AM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: norcal - 94590 Posts: 3,186 | Quote: Originally Posted by buzzboy My compact drivetrain is currently S52, ZF and e30 4.10 LSD. I'm looking to go to a higher ratio rear end. The 4.10 is useless on the highway, turning 4000 at 80mph and drinking gas quickly. Also there is a bit of a rear end whine. I don't know how bad that is, but I know it can't be a good thing. I would like to go to a ratio in the 3.00-3.50 range and I would like to maintain my LSD. From what it looks like my best option is to find a Z3 diff. The charts I keep finding online don't show many good LSD ratios for the mid-case e30. Is this correct? So far this is my list of cars to look for in junkyards. Anything else? Would it be hard to find a quality diff in that age range on the e30 or should I just start looking for z3 equipment? So my donor choices would be: 325es 3.23 post 1986 325is 3.46 pre 1986 Z3 2.8 3.15 Z3 ?.? 3.46 | The Z3 6 cyl automatics are the one's that come with the 3.46. I've been running the 3.15 z3 diff in for a year and it's decent. I actually would like a slightly higher ratio (3.25 or 3.46) as I do more track with the M50 swapped ti. __________________ James 95 active w/leather interior and sport interior conversion, Vaders, full M-Tech exterior conversion. Now m50 swapped* Eibach sway bars, D2 Coilovers, Depo's w/AE's, blacked-out sides and grills, LeatherZ console and door armrests, 1 series starter button mod, and custom finished Style 5's <--- in this color! Named "Roddy": *M50 6 cyl. swap with fan delete, S50 cams and chip, AFE stage 2 intake, M3 clutch and 11.5 lb Fidanza flywheel, 3.15LSD, battery relocated to rear and complete custom exhaust. Sweet! 97 318ti sport, Alaska Blue, Contours, coilovers, Dove Vaders and custom black/grey interior named "Max" 95 318ti Active in Cosmos, S50 swap in progress... named "Pit" SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | 12-11-2013, 05:04 AM | #7 | Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: OBX NC Posts: 40 | Is yours a torsen or a clutch type? I'm more of a "spirited highway" driving kinda guy but I put upwards of 10,000 miles on a car with a lot of open highway and interstate driving making up a lot of those miles. | | | 12-11-2013, 02:41 PM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: norcal - 94590 Posts: 3,186 | Torsen diff from a Z3. I suspect that you would be happy with the 3.15 ratio. You could even run a 2.93 e30 diff if you want a clutch type unit.. __________________ James 95 active w/leather interior and sport interior conversion, Vaders, full M-Tech exterior conversion. Now m50 swapped* Eibach sway bars, D2 Coilovers, Depo's w/AE's, blacked-out sides and grills, LeatherZ console and door armrests, 1 series starter button mod, and custom finished Style 5's <--- in this color! Named "Roddy": *M50 6 cyl. swap with fan delete, S50 cams and chip, AFE stage 2 intake, M3 clutch and 11.5 lb Fidanza flywheel, 3.15LSD, battery relocated to rear and complete custom exhaust. Sweet! 97 318ti sport, Alaska Blue, Contours, coilovers, Dove Vaders and custom black/grey interior named "Max" 95 318ti Active in Cosmos, S50 swap in progress... named "Pit" SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | 12-11-2013, 04:36 PM | #9 | Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: OBX NC Posts: 40 | I don't mind what type of LSD really, but I like the concept of torsen with them not having clutches to wear out if I'm getting a used unit. I figure that currently I've got a first gear of 15.6 which will pull me along pretty well. 3.15 and 2.93 gears would give me a first gear ratio of 13.23 and 12.3 respectively. I've driven cars with gearing as high as 9.4, which is way too high, but I think I could work with either 12.3 or 13.2. This would leave me open for a few choices of rear gears to pick from. | | | 12-11-2013, 05:59 PM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Bresse Track France Posts: 535 | maybe help u | | | 12-13-2013, 02:30 AM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Globally Posts: 1,162 | US market never got a 3.46 nor a 3.64 or a 3.91 LSD they were a 3.73 or a 4.10 for i cars. E28's got a 3.25 lsd which many E30 guys swap in when they do 24V swaps. Early e cars have the 2.79 which make them dogs but good on gas but the 2.93 gave it best of both. Turbo E30 guys use 2.79 or 2.93 for top end. I am building basically the same car I am using 3.15 lsd. | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |