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I have seent hat many times, and several others like it. Sure I admit there are many questions raised by those videos, many of which I thought of before I saw them...
BUT, the problem is the other theories don't make any more sense. One is a missile crashed it, A missile wouldn't be able to go through a few of the rings, they are designed to explode on impact. Saying that the whole wall should have been demolished but not a whole going through.
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| | | | | 10-09-2005, 06:13 AM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 190 |
a lot of missles are designed not to explode on impact, (ex. bunker busters) think about it, it's more effective, more damage, remember if you hold a small firecracker in your hand with your palm open and it blows up, what happens, you get burnt a little, hold that same small firework in your hand, but close your palm, and you lose fingers __________________ BMW 318ti M Body Kit, Future M3 engine swap
My 318ti | | | | | 10-09-2005, 07:10 AM | #4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 363 |
I know of bunker busters, but ok lets think of it this way.... it went through three rings, then it would have exploded. But when you look at that last hole, there is no damage from any explosion anywhere. You'd at least see like burn marks on the building. Would you not? __________________ RIP
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| | | | | 10-09-2005, 07:57 AM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 190 |
this is true, i very much agree, some people think it was a much smaller aircraft, wich would make more sense why there was no end "explosion" and why the damage was relatively minimal, i mean we all saw the 747's cut through the entire frame of both twin towers, and somehow this 747 doesn't get through half of the pentigon, something doesn't add up there. lets throw something else out there to bs about, i read that the melting temperature of the steel in the twin towers, was much higher than the burning temperature of jet fuel, a common mistake made about jet fuel is that it isn't as explosive as people think. one thinks "oh jet fuel it's gotta be crazy explosive" when in reality it is much like volitity of kerosene. also, the pilots that flew the planes into the buildings were said to be ammatures, i listened to a pilot explain the difficulty in getting a 747 to bank into one of those buildings, the terrorists plan was to bank the aircraft to spread the damage among floors, the pilot said to do this would be equivilant to tying a penny to a string that was 20ft long, and spinging it around your head, and hitting another penny off a shelf __________________ BMW 318ti M Body Kit, Future M3 engine swap
My 318ti | | | | | 10-09-2005, 08:59 PM | #6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 3,244 |
OK but didn't the original huge jet aircraft still disappear and kill people? Where are they? __________________
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| | | | | 10-09-2005, 09:36 PM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 190 |
all of this is speculation, but it seems odd to me that the white house didn't really consider anything else, almost immediately they blammed it on terrorists. i dunno, usually in murder investigations ALL possibilities and leads are taken into account, and i think everyone can agree, that not all legitimate leads were followed. people may say "that's crazy talk that the gov't covered things up" and maybe they are right, but what causes more damage? 1) agreeing and believing everything they say? and hey if they are right and we say they aren't, nobody gets hurt? 2) disagreeing with what they tell us, and questioning their statements? what if they are wrong, then who gets hurt? The founding fathers of our country said that the gov't should never be trusted, and that ever 200 years or so a gov't needs to be overrun, well we're past our 200 year mark. __________________ BMW 318ti M Body Kit, Future M3 engine swap
My 318ti | | | | | 10-09-2005, 11:47 PM | #8 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,305 |
Yeah, I've seen this before, it was real interesting when I thought about it. | | | | | 10-10-2005, 01:18 AM | #9 | | TRETEN IRGENDEINES ESELS Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 3,687 |
A small airplane would not do that damage,It looks like it had to be a missle or something. I've never seen this video before so it was new to me. __________________ 98 Avus Blue 318 ti Active
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www.myspace.com/avusblueti | | | | | 10-10-2005, 01:52 AM | #10 | | Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 97 |
The main point of this is that there was no plane to be found. However, was there ever plane parts that were found at the WTC? No. Why...because so much heat was produced that the plane parts melted. The planes virtually vaporized. This would be the case with a plane hitting the Pentagon and why no shell is in those pictures. Remember, those planes were going across the country and filled to the gills with 100LL.
I love conspiracy theorys but, there is a Pentagon film that shows a plane flying right into the building. I just cant find it right now. Maybe that is a conspiracy in itself! | | | | | 10-10-2005, 03:39 AM | #11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 190 |
lol the burning temperature of jet fuel isn't enough to melt aluminum dude... let alone the steel that held the building up, whens the last time ANY airplane crash and melted under it's own fire??? EVER in history? when's the last time an airplane crashed (not in water) and no bodies were ever found? why is it that the president ordered that pieces from the trade centers be taken away immediately and given to people as souvineers (i never saw a crime scene where evidence was handed out) __________________ BMW 318ti M Body Kit, Future M3 engine swap
My 318ti | | | | | 10-10-2005, 04:55 AM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 363 |
Ok, I am not a fan of these conspiracy theories of this situation. Though I believe there are hundreds of questions raised by the day's events, there are many more reasons to believe it. I personally believe it and am very open minded to others ideas. But you have to understand that anyone can skew the information to suit their beliefs, it happens all the time on those conspiracy sites, especially about 9-11. Alot of those questions will never be answered, and I am ok with it... I have reserached it alot, and have concluded to myself that the basic story told to us is what happened. I am sure tehre are minor differences, but there is no conspiracy. If you want more conspiracy nonsense, go to www.abovetopsecret.com They have forums devoted to that topic. __________________ RIP
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| | | | | 10-10-2005, 05:02 AM | #13 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 190 |
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Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 10-11-2005, 04:33 AM | #15 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: cary, nc Posts: 2,259 |
well the reason the twin towers fell? the heat produced by jet fuel explosions vastly weakened the infrastructure of the buildings and the beams (steel) causing floors to fall on top of floors etc. where were the planes headed until they were jacked....california or someting wasnt it? maybe a terrorist chose these flights because they knew theyd be loaded with explosive jet fuel? maybe thats giving them too much credit but its not a bad idea if you are trying to knock down buildings... in my architecture class, we discussed this and how the heat from jet fuel explosions IS hot enough to weaken the structure that needs to hold billions of bounds of building materials... http://www.big-boys.com/articles/concreteplane.html any idea if the plane was found after that one? i dont see the need to constantly question the government....either way its still a tragedy __________________ 1995 318ti Active
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