» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | | 03-15-2004, 07:41 PM | #1 | Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 47 | Greetings all, So the ceramic is deteriorating in my catalytic converter and making that awful rattling sound. Over the weekend, the dreaded ‘check engine’ light blips on—10 to 1 it's the fault code from the CAT/ oxygen sensors. What sucks is my ’98 has 96,000mi and according to the dealer the Emissions Warranty runs out at 80,000 and the CAT isn't covered on my CPO. And I was just thinking of getting a new ANSA exhaust! Now that money has to go towards a pricey CAT. Does anyone know of a reliable source on the Internet or in the Bay Area for aftermarket or used CATs for the TI? I’m not excited about buying the $2K piece from the dealer. thanks in advance, B | | | 03-15-2004, 11:18 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 368 | In response to so many complaints, BMW changed the warranty on the M44 cat to 10-years, unlimited mileage. My car had its replaced fairly recently at beyond 100k miles. Ask your dealer. If you need it, I may be able to find the defect code used for the repair on my car. I think they list the bulletin at Alldata.com -Phil Marx | | | 03-15-2004, 11:48 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 368 | Heck, it appears to be a recall which is even better: Emissions Recalls TSB Number Issue Date TSB Title 1. 180100 MAR 01 Recall - Catalytic Converter Replacement Go to: http://alldata.com/TSB/06/98067532.html I can't find an EPA link. Wait! I found a copy of the recall leter. confirming the warranty extension, dated September 2002. It does refer to: "certain 1998 BMW automobiles equipped with a 1.9 liter engine. We estimate that only a small percentage fo the vehicles will develop the problem which is first indicated by a catalyst rattling noise due to a loose monolith inside the catalyst housing. The problem may also be indicated by the Check Engine Light." "BMW will extend the emissions warranty for the catalytic converter from 8 years or 80,000 miles to 10 years with no mileage limit." It lists a number to call: 1-800-831-1117 but it says to call the nearest BMW dealer for an appointment. I'm happy to make a copy for you by fax or scan. Let me know. It would be great to have a copy of the TSB if anyone has an Alldata account. My car's cat was replaced on 7/15/2003 at 108,900 miles using defect code 1832918500. Give your local dealer a call and educate them. Good luck! -Phil Marx | | | 03-16-2004, 12:05 AM | #4 | Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 47 | Hey, thanks for the information!!! I just got off the phone with BMWNA and gave them my VIN, etc. and confirmed that MY car DOES get a new CAT under the extended warranty. I already 'went to town' with the dealer on Friday, so I'll be returning this afternoon with my newfound knowledge. That letter could be helpful--e-mail me and I'll tell you my fax #. Hopefully it will work out, it's just so disheartening that my local BMW dealership gave me such friction when I first called for help. thanks again, Brian | | | 03-16-2004, 12:47 AM | #5 | Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: blah blah Posts: 55 | Is this something that is strongly suggested to be done to all ti's? I have a 98 as well... no problems so far... at least no light indicated. Also, I have a supersprint exhaust... would that invalidate the warranty/recall? __________________ '98 ti avus blue sport / m tech trim / stock M44 / real carbon fiber dash kit / m pedals / One piece head lights / cali top / custom 10" sub box / 10" xtant sub / xtant 1.1i amp / passenger side 7" screen installed in sun visor / pioneer avic-n1 / 18" mille miglia 11-3 / black m3 vader seats/ Welsh Royals/ http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35...1aroyalcar.gif | | | 03-16-2004, 01:05 AM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 368 | No reason to think that an aftermarket exhaust would invalidate an emission warranty. The language specifies that all original terms and conditions apply to this extension so read the original. -Phil Marx | | | 03-16-2004, 04:59 AM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 678 | My cat went shortly after i bought the car. Its the only thing thats gone really wrong with the car (coupla hoses broke recently but thats minor). When the cat was going the car sounded like an uber riced Honda. I also noticed as i went the engine just wouldnt rev. It got so bad that i couldnt run over 2500rpm. Luckily BMW covered it. __________________ BostonGreen 97' w/ DASC & Technique Stage 1 software M3 front bumper. BavAuto Springs. Bilstein Sport Shocks. Xbrace. BA Short Shifter. Angel Eyes Headlights, doubled brake lights 225/50/16's Yokohama Advan S4's Panasonic 70Wx4 CD/MP3 player + 4x Alpine 6x9's rear | | | 03-22-2004, 06:54 PM | #8 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | If the dealer gives you lip about the aftermarket exhaust, simply say it was damaged and replaced. | | | 09-15-2004, 03:20 AM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mt. Laurel, NJ Posts: 390 | yeah man my cat went bad around 2000 and it was replaced by the dealer for no charge right now the car is stock and its running perfectly. but i always have the check engine light on i dont know why my oil is fine maybe somethin wiht the air filter or i duino can u help me ty __________________ Intake, Sony mp3/cd player, remus cat-back exhaust, | | | 09-15-2004, 04:14 AM | #10 | TRETEN IRGENDEINES ESELS Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 3,687 | I have a 98ti and my cat was replaced around 45k,it was covered by some warranty. It got so bad my car wouldn't go faster than 35 mph. __________________ 98 Avus Blue 318 ti Active clear outs all around,stealth turning signals,blue led interior lights, 35% tinted windows,K&N air filter, 12" Kenwood Sub, MTX Thunder Amp,Alpine cd changer, Leatherz Armrest,ACS Pedals/Handbrake/FloorMats & Vitesse Tuning Carbon Fiber B-Pillars/CF Spark Plug Cover, New 16" MSW Typer 14 Rims on Goodyear Triple Treds www.myspace.com/avusblueti | | | 11-12-2004, 05:29 AM | #11 | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2 | I have a 98ti and it has same problem, raddaling noise in the converter. I called the dealer and asked if there is extended warranty on the catalytic converter but he said that there is only 5years/50k miles warrentry. Is there a way i can get it replaced from a dealer by providing him with some good information. thanks, Bogdan | | | 11-12-2004, 05:39 AM | #12 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 | __________________ ...steven BMW CCA #146825 1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i www.bmwcca.org | | | 11-13-2004, 06:10 AM | #13 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Athens, Ohio Posts: 121 | Does anyone who has paid for a catalytic converter replacement or gotten estimates have a gory figure for me? Is it actually "$2k" as mentioned earlier in this thread? My 1998 318ti check engine light came on awhile ago and my peake says it's catalyst efficiency. Now today the thing just got VERY loud and I'd say it will need replaced. Unfortunately, I spoke with BMWNA on Thursday and they say mine is not covered under this recall. Is there any other aftermarket or other option? | | | 11-13-2004, 05:24 PM | #15 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Athens, Ohio Posts: 121 | Oops... Okay, it was late; I wasn't thinking properly. Basically, I realize that the "rear silencer" is my muffler. Upon close investigation this morning with the benefit of daylight and the absence of Guinness, here's what appears to have happened. The main hanging bracket that holds my muffler in place has broken free entirely. My muffler is now hanging somewhat freely connected only by the rear hanger and it's connection at the catalytic converter. Which presents a couple questions: 1) On a Supersprint Exhaust, could this "hanger" be welded back into place by a shop who knew what they were doing? 2) More importantly, would a "catalyst efficiency" check engine light come on as a result of a major leak further down the exhaust line? I'm hoping that I don't have a faulty catalyst but rather just the hole in the exhaust. My biggest fear is that this loose exhaust line would have harmed my catalytic converter somehow. Inspection of it though appears to show that it's fully intact. If I can't get this welded and I have to replace the muffler altogether...should I just go with Supersprint or perhaps Stromung? Or has this question been beaten to death? Thx | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |